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wikipedia and physical therapy - March 5, 2008 8:58:18 AM   
rwillcott

 

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Status: offline 		I was recently on Wikipedia and thought I would take a look at the definition of physical therapy.  Under the section 'Physical Therapy and Science' it states that there is a lack of research and science to support what we do.  It goes on to state that many physical therapist's base there assessment and treatment on anecdotal evidence.

I thought we all could take some time do edit the definition of physical therapy.  I couldn't think of a better group of editors then those who are part of this site!

Thanks,

Rob
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RE: wikipedia and physical therapy - March 5, 2008 10:26:52 AM   
proud

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: rwillcott

I was recently on Wikipedia and thought I would take a look at the definition of physical therapy.  Under the section 'Physical Therapy and Science' it states that there is a lack of research and science to support what we do.  It goes on to state that many physical therapist's base there assessment and treatment on anecdotal evidence.

I thought we all could take some time do edit the definition of physical therapy.  I couldn't think of a better group of editors then those who are part of this site!

Thanks,

Rob


No question about it.

Given my lack of computer saavy...I suggest yourself along with superb regulars like Jason Harris, orthotherapist, Tom Reeves, Sebastian Asselbergs fix that mess up.

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RE: wikipedia and physical therapy - March 5, 2008 10:40:05 AM   
Tom Reeves DPT ATC

 

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Status: offline 		I wouldn't know the first thing about editing a Wikipedia site.

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RE: wikipedia and physical therapy - March 5, 2008 12:39:38 PM   
OAK

 

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Status: offline 		Thanks for the notification.  I removed that section.

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RE: wikipedia and physical therapy - March 5, 2008 12:45:41 PM   
rwillcott

 

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Status: offline 		Thanks OAK!  When I have time I'm going to make some contributions to the definition.  I assume if you're registered to wikipedia you can edit?

Rob

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RE: wikipedia and physical therapy - March 5, 2008 12:47:28 PM   
OAK

 

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ORIGINAL: rwillcott

Thanks OAK!  When I have time I'm going to make some contributions to the definition.  I assume if you're registered to wikipedia you can edit?

Rob


Looks like it.  That's the first time I've edited Wikipedia.

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RE: wikipedia and physical therapy - March 5, 2008 12:51:27 PM   
rwillcott

 

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Status: offline 		I wonder who would have wrote that in the first place?  I can't see a physical therapist writing that?

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RE: wikipedia and physical therapy - March 5, 2008 1:42:24 PM   
jma

 

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Status: offline 		Agree with that. Rewrite that definition!

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RE: wikipedia and physical therapy - March 5, 2008 9:30:08 PM   
aph401

 

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Status: offline 		Glad yall are doing something about this, but I've noticed that wikipedia edits are typically reversed within a few days, max. Hopefully this one will stay!

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RE: wikipedia and physical therapy - March 5, 2008 10:33:55 PM   
Sebastian Asselbergs

 

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Status: offline 		Rob, sad as that definition is, it does seem to be the practice of large numbers of PTs (CST, MFR, PPRT, US and other magic bullet alphabytes).
Having said that - I am glad it is changed - thanks OAK! And thanks for your confidence proud, but so far I am only a Wiki user. Mmmmh, maybe this will drive me to registering and editing....

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RE: wikipedia and physical therapy - March 5, 2008 11:18:25 PM   
OAK

 

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ORIGINAL: aph401

Glad yall are doing something about this, but I've noticed that wikipedia edits are typically reversed within a few days, max. Hopefully this one will stay!


It was changed back so I deleted it again.  Luckily I have alot of time on my hands!

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RE: wikipedia and physical therapy - March 6, 2008 12:13:00 PM   
OAK

 

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ORIGINAL: OAK

quote:

ORIGINAL: aph401

Glad yall are doing something about this, but I've noticed that wikipedia edits are typically reversed within a few days, max. Hopefully this one will stay!


It was changed back so I deleted it again.  Luckily I have alot of time on my hands!


It was changed so I deleted it again.  Now I've had my IP address banned from wikipedia edits!

It shows you how reliable this website is. 

< Message edited by OAK -- March 6, 2008 12:15:48 PM >

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RE: wikipedia and physical therapy - March 6, 2008 4:42:10 PM   
jlharris


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Status: offline 		I've made an edit to the page before.  But now when I do, one user undoes it everytime (and I'm not trying to delete that whole entry).  BTW, have no idea how I can have a conversation with that user over this.  Do any of you?

He says something to the effect that I have a conflict of interest, so my edits are being undone.

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RE: wikipedia and physical therapy - March 6, 2008 7:56:27 PM   
SJBird55

 

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Status: offline 		Information on "edit war"   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Edit_war
Information on "dispute resolution"   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Resolving_disputes

Who would know more about physical therapy than a physical therapist?  Would a physical therapist have any more of a conflict of interest on the topic of physical therapy than a chiropractor would have on chiropractic? 

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RE: wikipedia and physical therapy - March 6, 2008 8:09:55 PM   
SJBird55

 

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PT Anecdotal Evidence
Hi JzG. I have asked User:JlharrisDPT to quit undoing your addition of a quote regarding anecdotal-based PT practices, as determined by the peer-reviewed journal you cited. Keep up the good work! --Email4jonathan (talk) 22:41, 6 March 2008 (UTC)



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RE: wikipedia and physical therapy - March 6, 2008 11:07:23 PM   
Shill

 

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Status: offline 		I guess one thing that should be done is to look up on wikipedia the definition for subluxation, to see how that one reads!  Or perhaps chiropractic as a whole.  If there are statements regarding anecdotal evidence there, then I guess this could be an easier pill to swallow. 

I believe two things about that quote that they use. 
1) It is taken out of context and re-worded to sound a bit worse than it did in the paper itself. 
2) The initial study was done in 1997 and 1999 ( I believe), and not published until 2005, which may or may not be meaningful that it took that long to get it published.  Regardless, it is likely data from prior to 1997 and 1999, which may be a reflection of a time when the push for evidence was less.  

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