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Static Contraction Training - September 3, 2008 11:10:07 PM   
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Is anyone familiar with this type of strength training?  I believe Pete Cisco is behind the theory.  From the little bit I can find on it and from a patient educating me on it, apparently this type of training is strengthening at a static position (think isometric) with as much resistance as tolerated and held in position for about 7 seconds.  I believe only a few repetitions are performed, but I'm not sure.  Apparently the static position strengthening for whatever joint/muscle(s) is done 1x/week.  The reason I was told that frequency would be 1x/week is due to the amount of lactic acid that builds.  Amazing strength gains are proported to occur. 

I believe our literature indicates that for increasing strength, full range of motion is a relevant consideration and frequency for increasing strength is 3x/week.  This particular "theory" sounds somewhat scammish.  I couldn't find anything on PubMed.  I found a crap "article" in google scholar, but I'm very, very sure the article wasn't peer reviewed.

Anyone familiar with this type of strength and conditioning?
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RE: Static Contraction Training - September 4, 2008 1:54:37 AM   
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Never heard of him or that type of training. However, adding an isometric contraction at the end of a workout really gets the burn going.

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RE: Static Contraction Training - September 4, 2008 2:22:48 AM   
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This theory has been around in some form or another for a while, or at least as long as I've been involved in exercise science (about 16 years).  It seems plausible that some strength gains would occur, but only if the individual were extremely sedentary and this protocol were to give them some form of overload.  I think there may be some data on it, but the question for me always goes back to specificity.  What are you trying to accomplish with the program?  Fitness, power, endurance?  If it's nothing or this...go with the static holding protocol.  If you have access to less "amazing" forms of exercise go with that.  SJ don't give up your Tri's for this!

I tried the workout myself when I was younger but learned if I ate more fiber....nevermind.

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RE: Static Contraction Training - September 4, 2008 2:34:22 AM   
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No... this type of training isn't for me!!!  LOL  If you can figure out a way for me to hold my breath a really long time, I'd be interested in that!!  I start my swimming next week!  My neck has been sore for a couple of weeks, so I'm crossing my fingers and hoping I'm ready next week.  WHY would you even think that I'd fall prey to some scammish sounding program?  Rod, I need to slap you with something for even entertaining such ludicrous thoughts!

No, a patient of mine is looking into offering this kind of exercise for his clientele.  I told him that I knew nothing about that kind of exercise, but it kind of goes against everything I've read over the years.  I said that I'm sure it was better than nothing... LMAO  Anyways, I was hoping to have more specific direction where he could read an unbiased opinion.  What I did find was written by the Pete Cisco guy himself - and when he's the one who supposedly created it and he's the one involved in sales... ummmm, well... I don't find him a credible source.

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RE: Static Contraction Training - September 4, 2008 4:37:30 AM   
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all of the sustained iso work with big loads were reported to carry some potential cardiac risk as well. there was a tendency to valsalvas all the time with this training style. Always sounded liek a recipe for disaster to me not to mention a really weird  strenght strain curve to boot.

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RE: Static Contraction Training - September 4, 2008 11:20:05 AM   
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Hmmm, I didn't think of the valsalva!  Yeah... this guy will be working with some quite obese people and bonez, you're mentioning something that could have horrible ramifications.  I mentioned the strength strain curve to him also.

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RE: Static Contraction Training - September 4, 2008 11:56:57 AM   
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quote:

The reason I was told that frequency would be 1x/week is due to the amount of lactic acid that builds. 


It would take a week for lactic acid to flush? LOL. If this is Mr. Cisco's explanation, someone needs to dive into exercise physiology - NOW. It disappears in minutes after work-outs. And that "burn"? Not a lactic acid phenomena. Mr. Cisco needs reading.....
SJ, do not hold your breath - use an snorkel....LOL

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RE: Static Contraction Training - September 6, 2008 10:30:48 PM   
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I think that this reasoning with lactic acid warrants a read of an exercise physiology book.

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RE: Static Contraction Training - December 10, 2018 9:12:36 AM   
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Isometrics Rules of 10 as described by George Davies, 10 REPS, 10 Sets Ten angles. Ther is no need to hold your breath especially if you are countin out loud..

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RE: Static Contraction Training - December 13, 2018 11:28:17 AM   
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one question: Why?

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RE: Static Contraction Training - December 18, 2018 7:42:33 PM   
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nothing new or ( i would have thought ) controversial about isometric training. I recall being introduced to static high output leg training against a wall when I was a sprinter. I often encourage the elderly to use isometric holds against opposing hands, table tops, chair arms etc. No breath holding required, works well enough. Tweety now you are a highly trained athlete, you would have done some breath holding swim drills ?, not my favourite drill but quite effective in altering your panic "gotta breathe now " mode. Ie one breath for 3/5/7/9 and descending number of strokes over 100 metres.

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RE: Static Contraction Training - April 29, 2019 9:20:40 PM   
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I guess this post was made in 2008 so it is a little out dated. I'm actually building an EMR that can track fine grained data to answer questions like this. Basically it's an AI that learns from the trends in our documentation. The AI is called Jonni. Jonni is an artificial intelligence that assists with your documentation, provides real-time treatment recommendations, identifies value and skill in your treatment, and interacts with patients. I set up a page at https://www.jonnipt.com if anyone wants to track the progress. I'm also looking for feedback to get an idea of what kind of features PTs would like to see.

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