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jma -> Thoughts on article discussing standardizing manipulation terminology (March 14, 2008 4:50:50 PM)

Hello,
Was interested to know what others think about an article that was written in the March 2008 JOSPT titled, "A Model for Standardizing Manipulation Terminology in Physcal Therapy Practice". I think it makes sense.




kiwi PT -> RE: Thoughts on article discussing standardizing manipulation terminology (March 17, 2008 12:13:56 AM)

It may make sense, but I don't see it changing anytime soon, people are too entrenched.

Kyle PT




jma -> RE: Thoughts on article discussing standardizing manipulation terminology (March 17, 2008 10:37:09 AM)

I agree but they have to start somewhere and I hope this gets the ball rolling.




T_Thom -> RE: Thoughts on article discussing standardizing manipulation terminology (March 17, 2008 11:23:14 AM)

I completely agree with this standardization.




TexasOrtho -> RE: Thoughts on article discussing standardizing manipulation terminology (March 29, 2008 3:26:28 PM)

I agree.  I've been trying to standardize my techniques.  It's a tough exercise, but I think worth it.




jma -> RE: Thoughts on article discussing standardizing manipulation terminology (March 29, 2008 6:06:20 PM)

I do hope this can be "standardized" within my working career.




steve -> RE: Thoughts on article discussing standardizing manipulation terminology (March 29, 2008 6:20:34 PM)

The idea behind standardization is very interesting to me - we all use some form of manual therapy and really have only a slight idea on why it is effective. Unfortunately "When the cause is unknown the cure is many" and as such a number of philosiphies guide why and how the manual treatment should be delivered - with most of the theories being far from accurate based on our present scientific knowledge. On this basis, I would suggest the standardization is an opportunity to shed ourselves of these theories until a full understanding of the mechanism of their effectiveness is known.

Steve




torques -> RE: Thoughts on article discussing standardizing manipulation terminology (August 7, 2008 8:08:33 AM)

Hi all,
I am all for standardization of Manipulation especially in spinal joint manip. I am actually using it now in the clinic. I still am unsure about a few components:1. what is considered low versus medium velocity in terms of speed or is it just high velocity or low velocity? 2. Other than the direction of force, it lack specific technique identification-graded oscillation, progressive oscillation, sustained stretch et al. 3. identification of mobilizing and stabilizing segments. Reliability of identification of specific spinal segment hypomobility is low. In practice, I still am not confident whether I am actually on L2L3 versus L3L4. How do you generalized the spinal segments. Is there a consensus as to what is considered upper, mid and lower segments would be? (e.g. I consider T1-T3 as upper thoracic, 4-9 mid thoracic, 9-12-low thoracic , L1-L3 mid lumbar, L4L5-low lumbar, C0-C2 subcranial, C2-C7- mid cervical). Lastly, how do you describe position: how specific should you be? should you have to include specific locking position? Hope to hear any thoughts on this [:D]

Julius Quezon PT MTC Cped




blast7 -> RE: Thoughts on article discussing standardizing manipulation terminology (September 16, 2008 9:50:40 PM)

Before we standardize manipulation why not standardize what a PT diagnosis is.  There is a significant lack of uniformity in this area.




torques -> RE: Thoughts on article discussing standardizing manipulation terminology (September 25, 2008 12:30:06 PM)

JOSPT just came out with clinical guidelines in treatment of neck pain which include standardized measures, treatment and diagnostic classification of neck pain/dysfunction. Currently, US PT's use ICD-9 for coding  neck patients under 4 major subgroups: cervicalgia/thoracic pain, cervicocranial syndrome, cervical sprain/strain, spondylosis/DDD with radiculopathy utilizing specific standardized testing measures for differential diagnosis.  Im not quite sure if we are headed to using primary/secondary ICD 10 system which is more detailed and function oriented. I am sure we are heading towards standardization of PT impairment diagnosis in other body regions. Standardization of treatment interventions should be done concurrently.




jma -> RE: Thoughts on article discussing standardizing manipulation terminology (September 25, 2008 8:40:24 PM)

It was definitely a good article in JOSPT to read. Hope they put more out there on other areas of the body




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