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Re: Is this outrageous, or fair business tactics? - August 18, 2005 6:39:00 PM
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FLAOrthoPT
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small business loans...get incorporated..
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Re: Is this outrageous, or fair business tactics? - August 18, 2005 7:58:00 PM
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avalon
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Hi All,
[QUOTE]This behavior of stealing the patients is illegal[/QUOTE]I do not think so, since patients aren't a property.
This behaviour is however very common and shows that human relations need to be enhanced.
In "private" practice you may encounter patients that "look" like you and seek at your competences/skills.
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Re: Is this outrageous, or fair business tactics? - August 27, 2005 10:09:00 AM
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ptdan23
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How would this be different from a MD/DO leaving a practice and going into his/her own practice or joining another group practice? If the new practice is in the same area the patients are usually given the option of staying at the same clinic and seeing another practitioner or following the practitioner to the new location. Why would this be any different for a PT? As long as the patients are given the information and allowed to make a choice I really don't think their is anything wrong with that.
Dan Curtis, PT.
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Re: Is this outrageous, or fair business tactics? - August 27, 2005 11:13:00 AM
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jma
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This happens a lot down here, no question about that.
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Re: Is this outrageous, or fair business tactics? - August 27, 2005 1:31:00 PM
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Randy Dixon
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PT Dan,
There are two differences, in the doctor's practice the Dr. is a partner, he has an equal interest, or at least an owning interest in those patients and their information. In the case of the PT he was an employee. Just like if I'm a partner in a business and I take my computer and all the information on it, that's OK, but if I'm an employee and I do the same I should be arrested.
Second, the issue isn't whether the patients have a right to see the PT when they change workplaces but if he has the right to use confidential information, illegally obtained, to contact those patients.
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Re: Is this outrageous, or fair business tactics? - August 27, 2005 2:02:00 PM
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ptdan23
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Randy,
Good points and I agree. I think if the patient is informed and they choose to follow the PT then they should be allowed. Do agree that if the PT leaving the practice obtains information in an underhanded way then that is not right. However it was their patient so is it not alright for them to take the patients information with them?
Dan, PT.
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Re: Is this outrageous, or fair business tactics? - August 28, 2005 7:09:00 AM
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hmgross
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I am not sure why someone would have to go about getting patients in such a shady way.
If you are good at what you do, put an ad in the newspaper with your name and location. Your previous patients will follow you. Seems pretty simple, maybe I am missing something.
No, you should not take patient information with you. We were talking about this the other day with my office manager when we were discussing what to do in "slow times"--not like we are a dental office and can say "Mr. Smith you are overdue for your cleaning"--could you imagine "Mr. Smith how is your shoulder, maybe you need to come in for a recheck"--not the right thing to do!
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Re: Is this outrageous, or fair business tactics? - August 28, 2005 2:24:00 PM
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Randy Dixon
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Patient records are legal documents, and the business not only owns them but is responsible for them and their safe storage, even after the pt. is discharged or even dead.
If a pt. follows a PT the PT needs to contact the prior office to obtain copies.
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