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Re: Prelim Validation Prediction Rule for DVT - July 13, 2005 3:01:00 PM
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Synergy
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Lance is a great inspiration to many people these days. I just about went over to France to kick them in their collective arses when they said he was doping. Give me a friggen break!
Todd,
Since we are in such close proximity, a cook-out may actually be warranted. :)
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Re: Prelim Validation Prediction Rule for DVT - July 13, 2005 7:51:00 PM
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Jason, man, you never give up. You hook onto a comment and hold onto it like a pitbull. Sorry, but I stand by my views of military medicine in the US, if you only knew (it would be like HUM treatments on every rehab patient, that is the nearest therapy example). But that is cool, my criticism of the military makes me unpatriotic eh? I guess I can't make fun of military orthopods or any military docs (oh my God notify the press, I said "derr", thank God Ashcroft is no longer AG). Call me unprofessional (yeah you know me pretty well), use military pictures to "prove" some point. Ignore EVERY SINGLE point I made regarding US military medical training...its good to live in the dark. It is all about me saying "derr". I'll hand over my license tomorrow. It IS about being thin skinned, you don't even know what you are sticking up for...you became reactionary over a joke. You painted me as unpatriotic and say things ABOUT ME.
Let me tell you something Jason, you little man. You know nothing of me. You have a code but fight blindly. You would rather protect someone that accept the faults within the system. You would rather INSULT ME based upon a laughable comment, a joke. Listen, don't EVER make assumptions of my professionalism, my dedication or my hard work. Don't you EVER try to undermine my words or my resolve. When I directly point out articles from ACEP, don't you EVER try to brush that off for the sake of "brotherhood". My friend the PATIENT comes first, not some fraternity. If you choose to ignore that with the same passion you chose to directly insult me...then I feel for you and your patients.
Don't EVER assert anything about me again in a negative manner.
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Re: Prelim Validation Prediction Rule for DVT - July 14, 2005 2:31:00 AM
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JLS_PT_OCS
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Well, my dad can beat up your dad. :) I'll let you have the last word, insults seem to be your thing anyway. J
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Re: Prelim Validation Prediction Rule for DVT - July 14, 2005 2:59:00 AM
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TLB
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Jason or little man or whatever you go by these days here's a few more don't EVERS for you.
Don't EVER be reluctant to show your feelings when you're happy, give in to it. When you're not, live with it.
Don't EVER be afraid to try to make things better you might be surprised at the results.
Don't EVER take the weight of the world on your shoulders.
Don't EVER feel threatened by the future take life one day at a time.
Don't EVER feel guilty about the past what's done is done. Learn from any mistakes you might have made.
Don't EVER feel that you are alone there is always somebody there for you to reach out to.
Don't EVER forget that you can achieve many of the things you can imagine. It's not as hard as it seems.
Don't EVER stop loving Don't EVER stop believing, Don't EVER stop dreaming your dreams.
Ah yes, one final and most important don't EVER. Don't EVER question a physcian even when you might have personal insight into certain situations. :)
That beer and BBQ is sounding better my the minute.
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Re: Prelim Validation Prediction Rule for DVT - July 14, 2005 8:32:00 AM
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Synergy
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ROFL! Maybe now the madness has ended. Todd, we'll hook up one day and chow down on some BBQ. Let me know when! :)
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Re: Prelim Validation Prediction Rule for DVT - July 14, 2005 2:31:00 PM
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karmzack
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TLB, You left a few out.
Don't EVER be mean to your USPS postman. Don't EVER drink beer before liquor.
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Re: Prelim Validation Prediction Rule for DVT - July 14, 2005 2:38:00 PM
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Synergy
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Zack,
Would you be referring to that old cliche: liquor before beer, never fear; beer before liquor, never sicker? :)
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Re: Prelim Validation Prediction Rule for DVT - July 14, 2005 3:07:00 PM
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Jon Newman
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For all those who just can't get enough of Lance, here's an interesting article. After reading it...quite dry really, it was the last line that I thought held the most insight.
[URL=http://jap.physiology.org/cgi/content/full/98/6/2191]Here's the link[/URL]
Alex,
How was your experience?
jon
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Re: Prelim Validation Prediction Rule for DVT - July 14, 2005 3:36:00 PM
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jma
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Lance cannot be duplicated by anyone. He is the elite of the elite.
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Re: Prelim Validation Prediction Rule for DVT - July 14, 2005 3:41:00 PM
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Jon Newman
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Can any of us be duplicated?
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Re: Prelim Validation Prediction Rule for DVT - July 14, 2005 4:14:00 PM
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jma
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With his physiological stats? No. Perhaps down the road.
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Re: Prelim Validation Prediction Rule for DVT - July 14, 2005 4:39:00 PM
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karmzack
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[QUOTE] Would you be referring to that old cliche: liquor before beer, never fear; beer before liquor, never sicker? [/QUOTE]Why yes I am; the carbonation in the beer causes the body to absorb the liquor much quicker. I'm not sure why that's a bad thing :D .
[QUOTE]Lance cannot be duplicated by anyone. [/QUOTE]Except for that one scientist that will perfect human cloning in 10 years. Then we can have a whole peloton of Lances. I've been watching the TdF every night since it started, last night's 5 hour show wiped me out.
There should be a Friday afternoon BS forum, this DVT thread has taken a beating!
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Re: Prelim Validation Prediction Rule for DVT - July 14, 2005 5:10:00 PM
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Jon Newman
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So if we cloned 100 Lances, what percentage do you suppose would go on to be 7 time TdF champions?
Think about it.
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Re: Prelim Validation Prediction Rule for DVT - July 14, 2005 5:16:00 PM
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TLB
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[QUOTE] Don't EVER be mean to your USPS postman. Don't EVER drink beer before liquor [/QUOTE]Zack,
You are the man!
I always need someone to keep me honest. :)
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Re: Prelim Validation Prediction Rule for DVT - July 15, 2005 8:05:00 AM
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Alex Brenner PT MPT OCS
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Hi all. I just got back from the Tour. I was 100m from the finish line, stage 12 in Briancon, France. We took an awesome picture of Lance on the final 100m sprint. It was completely a lucky shot. I havent had a chance to look except in the digital camera view screen. I will post them later.
Wow, what an awesome thread. Wags is pretty arrogant.
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Re: Prelim Validation Prediction Rule for DVT - July 15, 2005 9:35:00 AM
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Dr.Wagner
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Yes Mr. Silvernail, I am sure your father can out wrastle mine. You got me...you may insult me, but yet you are somehow on the moral high ground. Yeah, you sure are pretty slick. You sound like quite the knowledgeable character...and buy the way, "Little man" had little in reference to your height. ;)
Brenner, what are you here to say? Or are you simply wishing to add fuel to the fire. What can you possible have constructive to add? To be quite honest I find it pretty moronic and terribly arrogant that any therapists can actually comment on MEDICAL standard of care. Defending substandard acute care shouldn't be your gig.
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Re: Prelim Validation Prediction Rule for DVT - July 15, 2005 10:19:00 AM
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JLS_PT_OCS
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Alex- Since there's no substandard care to defend, I guess you don't have anything to worry about. Empty forum board threats and insults certainly aren't something I feel the need to respond to. I think we can all figure out what happened here.
Would love to see that picture of Lance.
I don't suppose anyone wants to talk about DVTs anymore? :)
J
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Re: Prelim Validation Prediction Rule for DVT - July 15, 2005 11:03:00 AM
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Jeep
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Alex- did you just watch the "tour" or did you get to have any "behind the scenes" moments?
I went to a seminar given by Dr. Jeff Spencer(Lance's DC and DC to the team) a few years ago. Lot of pictures and "behind the scenes" info. Very interesting. Before that seminar, the tour was just alot of "bike riding" to me.
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Re: Prelim Validation Prediction Rule for DVT - July 15, 2005 11:18:00 AM
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Jon Newman
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I think one of the interesting things missed about Lance is that he is a chronic pain sufferer. Perhaps they should have a braclet for that.
jon
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Re: Prelim Validation Prediction Rule for DVT - July 15, 2005 1:49:00 PM
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dragonfire
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Jon, Didn't know Lance suffered from chronic pain...Did he suffer from this before or after cancer?
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