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Re: Most common training mistakes - April 22, 2005 4:01:00 AM
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JLS_PT_OCS
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I think I see where you're coming from.
You're right about those thinking styles, I am a peevishly detail oriented SOB, that is true.
That's a good question, I'll have to get back to you on it, though...
J
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Re: Most common training mistakes - April 22, 2005 8:42:00 AM
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coreconcepts
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Randy,
Let me take a stab at your "philisophical/conceptual" dialogue you are looking for. I may have touched on this in a previous post but I'm not sure. I think people make the mistake of trying to train muscles in isolation, rather than concentrating on the movement. I think people unnecessarily shy away from deadlifts and other bigger movement exercises for fear of injury, and yet will risk movement pattern overload by repeatedly using the shoulder press machine. If people approached training from an inside/out perspective, there would be a lot stronger, more functional and more balanced bodies. Like diets, many subscribe to a number of fitness "fads" and either overuse them, or use them incorrectly (the latest where I live is pole dancing classes!). Don't get me wrong; stability balls, balance boards, foam rollers, BOSU's, kettlebells - all great. Problem is that many of them are misused. People assume that they are automatically working their "cores" while they are sitting on the ball (or doing sit-ups on it for that matter). I see people struggle on balance boards and their trainers are telling them "this is working your core". I liken this to throwing somebody in the water who can't swim, watching them flail around while swallowing water, eventually making it to the side of the pool and telling them; "great! you were swimming there!"
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Re: Most common training mistakes - May 3, 2005 6:39:00 AM
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JLS_PT_OCS
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Core-
Love your swimming comparison, it's so funny! Can I use that, too!
Randy-
Here I go with an answer. I would say the biggest thing I have changed with patients/clients is what Core mentioned, I stopped working muscles and started working on movements.
This means predominantly multiple joint movements, focusing on useful patterns.
I really like the way I have seen it broken down by some strength coaches into these categories:
1. Upper body Horizontal pushing (pushups, bench press)
2. Upper body Horizontal pulling (rowing movements)
3. Upper body Vertical pulling (pullup/chinup)
4. Upper body Vertical pushing (shoulder press)
5. Bending over (deadlift or one of the above exercises in forward bent position)
6. Knee dominant lower body exercise (squat,lunge)
7. Hip dominant lower body exercise (straight leg deadlift, glute/ham raise)
8. Core work, a different post entirely...
So when I give classes on weight training or instruct individuals, that's what I focus on. More movements than particular muscles. Of course, during rehab, emphasis is different depending on the individual's issues.
Does that help?
J
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