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jesse14 -> salary for a new PT vs a new DC (October 21, 2006 11:00:00 AM)

I'm very curious..
Overall, who do you think would make make more? A new PT just starting out, or a new DC? Also, 5 years out of school, which of the two would have a higher earning power?

Thank's guys!



jlharris -> Re: salary for a new PT vs a new DC (October 21, 2006 11:59:00 AM)

Screw the salary, choose the profession you believe in and would enjoy doing day in and day out.



Nicole Matoushek PT MPH CSHE CEES -> Re: salary for a new PT vs a new DC (October 21, 2006 12:09:00 PM)

Cheers to that. Find what you enjoy and success will follow and more importantly the love of what you do.



jesse14 -> Re: salary for a new PT vs a new DC (October 22, 2006 1:12:00 AM)

While i agree with wanting to chose a career for the love of the profession, i must also be wise in my financial life. This means that if i am to spend huge sums of money in tuition (for either program), i wan't to make sure i can make a good return on my investment. I know money shouldn't be a deciding factor is choosing a career, but i do want to know that i can support my family once done school.
See my point?



jlharris -> Re: salary for a new PT vs a new DC (October 22, 2006 4:50:00 AM)

Again, you'll be able to support your family either way. Supporting the lifestyle you want for your family is another question.

Salaries vary widely by country and region. Try out [URL=http://www.salary.com]www.salary.com[/URL] for a start.

Be aware of the financial choices you make early in regards to you education. Remember it's an investment in your future, but be realistic in your possible returns. For example, where I live there are 2 PT schools. The first one's tuition is about 8k a year and the other's is about 25k a year. Now, you match that up with an average starting salary for PT's in the same area at about 48-52k a year, gives you an idea of which school you should choose with all things equal.

Good luck.



jesse14 -> Re: salary for a new PT vs a new DC (October 22, 2006 5:16:00 PM)

Thank's for the thoughs Jason.
My issue is mainly this: I'm from Toronto and i've applied to the CMCC (chiro school in toronto) and i also intend on applying to queens, U of T, and Mcmaster for PT school. The CMCC is going to cost me about $20K a year in tuition for 4 years= $80K and that's not inlcuding books, supplies, and the dreaded interest rates for borrowing the money. If i go to the cmcc i can still live at home and save myself probably $1000 a month with no rent or bills. If i go the PT route, tuition is about 6K a year i believe but another 12K in living expenses (plus books and intererst etc). Oh yeah, PT school is only 2 years which means less money spent on tuition. My dad is a DC and he aboslutley loves what he does. I believe in chiropractic as a NMSK approach to pain and injury management. I'm not a quack who thinks chiro can cure everything under the sun... those ppl make me sick. My dad makes a really good living (about 200K a year) and he told me that PTs (no matter how long they are in practice) can make that much money. I guess it's possible but my dad has 26 years of expereince so i think i'll listen to him because he only has my best interest in mind. Once again, i KNOW money is not a career guiding issue BUT schooling requires so much of it that i feel a smart person would definatley take it into account.

Bye all



james097 -> Re: salary for a new PT vs a new DC (October 22, 2006 6:14:00 PM)

jesse, Your three posts on this subject are as I remember all but identical to those on another site ages ago including the quote "I'm not a quack who thinks Chiro can cure everything under the sun". Wasn't the advice then to have your father pay your way from his $200000, graduate and enter his practice.
James



jesse14 -> Re: salary for a new PT vs a new DC (October 22, 2006 7:10:00 PM)

Hello James,
I'm not sure what your point is?? I am not going to ask my dad to pay my tuition for me if that's what you're telling me to do. I'm not spoon fed and never want to be.
By the way, you must have an awesome memory :)



physioo -> Re: salary for a new PT vs a new DC (October 22, 2006 8:03:00 PM)

First, I do not think there is one Pt IN cANADA making 200 grand a year!

A CHiro making 200 grand a year, that is impressive and congrats to ur dad!

From my experience of chiros and Pts in CAnada, I would definitely go with the latter as I believe PTs are better equipped in CAnada than chiros. Having said that, I think you should speak or attend a few hours with ur dad, and maybe with some PTs in a hospital, so you can get an idea of how the job varies. For example, if you like working in a hosp, treating stroke clients, a chiro wouldn't be ur choice. Remember, physio is not only about MSK conditions!

Take care
Good luck with ur choice!
(current Queens grad student)



ONstudentPT555 -> Re: salary for a new PT vs a new DC (October 22, 2006 8:34:00 PM)

A PT making 200 grand a year? What about a PT who owns several private clinics? It might be rare but wouldnt they have the potential to make 200 grand a year? I know of PTs who own private clinics and make over 130 grand a year net income. With a business sky is the limit. Although PTs working in hospitals would probably make 50-90 000 a year depending on experience and position.



Sebastian Asselbergs -> Re: salary for a new PT vs a new DC (October 23, 2006 1:53:00 AM)

Jesse - 2 years to get PT at McMasters or Queen's? I think you may want to check your facts at those schools....



jbird007 -> Re: salary for a new PT vs a new DC (October 23, 2006 5:43:00 AM)

Troll call.

Good catch, James.
I recall reading "jesse14" posts on other sites as well. I do not think the concerns are honest.
He/she went into detail about his Daddy DC, dreamed up some good fiction, stumbled over his own lies, etc.

Jbird



physioo -> Re: salary for a new PT vs a new DC (October 23, 2006 6:14:00 AM)

YEs Sebastian

Physio at queens and mcmaster is offered in 2 years now

You get a Bachelor in say engineering or science, and then u get a Masters in PT
in 2 years

strange, sux but true



proud -> Re: salary for a new PT vs a new DC (October 23, 2006 6:47:00 AM)

Jesse14...so I wonder...are you trolling then?

Anyhow, I will answer the question based on the assumtion that you are truly interested:

PT is well positioned to be the provider of choice within the MSK arena. EBM is in its beginning stages and will soon have a stranglehold on the care that is provided. Many clinicians( PT's included) feel the EBM model is not a functional framework to base clinical choices concerning MSK care. However, with healthcare dollars at a premium, this will be the new reality. Like it or not.

There are many very intelligent and caring chiropractors. Unfortunately, Chiropractic philosophy is fundamentaly flawed and despite remaining focused on an evidenced-based approach, the foundation of its teachings will not be remedied in time to adjust. The problems are too intrenched.

So for now, the two have essentially equal earning potential. However, I anticipate the ethics and evidence based teachings in PT schools will solidify it as the provider of choice in the coming years.

Looking for a future? Go with a PT degree.



jbird007 -> Re: salary for a new PT vs a new DC (October 23, 2006 7:52:00 AM)

Interestingly enough, Proud crawls out of the woodwork to continue his agenda.
~yawn~



jlharris -> Re: salary for a new PT vs a new DC (October 23, 2006 8:24:00 AM)

His agenda?? LOL, this is pretty much a PT forum, so I'd say it's most of our agendas to promote the profession.

I'd be willing to bet he'd get a very simular answer on a chiro website but in favor of chiropractic.



physioo -> Re: salary for a new PT vs a new DC (October 23, 2006 8:40:00 AM)

good post by Proud, hes so proud lately

Proud, are you based in Canada?



james097 -> Re: salary for a new PT vs a new DC (October 23, 2006 8:47:00 AM)

Jesse, Let me get this right, you are willing to borrow from a financial institution a sum of over $100000 for chiropractic school which with interest will almost double if or when it is paid back to satisfy yourself you are not spoon fed. This is for a profession that has more failures after graduation than any other, that defaults on student loans more than any other. As in any normal family I helped my children through college as my grandchildren are being helped now. This is hardly spoon feeding, just the normal way a caring family acts if they have the finances available.
James



jlharris -> Re: salary for a new PT vs a new DC (October 23, 2006 10:10:00 AM)

I agree with James. Don't be to proud (no pun intended) to accept help from a father who sounds like he's worked hard and is doing well. My parents lacked to ability to help me, but luckily I was an athlete and a fairly good student, so I good make it through undergrad. Now that I've "made it" my children each have a college fund being set up for them so they can choose college if the so want to.



Sebastian Asselbergs -> Re: salary for a new PT vs a new DC (October 23, 2006 10:28:00 AM)

Thanks physioo....I am quite surprised....From a 3-year BScPT (after a BSc) to a MScPT in 2 ?!!?
And I remember Jesse from the "other side" as well - with the same question....

"Interestingly enough, Proud crawls out of the woodwork to continue his agenda.
~yawn~"

We keeping you up? jbird - proud is proud on a mostly PT site. Hardly surprising don't you think?



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