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Re: salary for a new PT vs a new DC - October 23, 2006 10:54:00 AM
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jbird007
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go proud
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Re: salary for a new PT vs a new DC - October 23, 2006 2:44:00 PM
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jbird007
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Proud is proud in regards to PT,(that I understand) but his agenda is to demote chiropractic at every chance he gets. Not all PT's are anti-DC.(or at least not as vocal as he is). It gets a little old and tiresome.
~double yawn~
J
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Re: salary for a new PT vs a new DC - October 23, 2006 2:59:00 PM
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Jon Newman
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Hi Proud,
YHBT x2.
PDNFTT
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Re: salary for a new PT vs a new DC - October 23, 2006 4:27:00 PM
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ONstudentPT555
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I think Jesse14's concerns are honest. I seriously believe he is struggling with the idea of becoming a chiropractor or not. With that being said I do think that some of his claims and facts are defenitely questionable and do not add up at times.
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Re: salary for a new PT vs a new DC - October 23, 2006 7:04:00 PM
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FLAOrthoPT
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go to osteopathic school and get a residency in PM and R if you are worried abouot salary and autonomy
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Re: salary for a new PT vs a new DC - October 23, 2006 7:04:00 PM
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Synergy
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ROFL @ Jon! Nice usage of internet jargon. ;)
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Re: salary for a new PT vs a new DC - October 24, 2006 1:28:00 AM
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ONstudentPT555
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FLAO,
There is no such thing as OD school in Canada and ODs can not get liscenced to work in Canada so its about as good as being a chiro here.
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Re: salary for a new PT vs a new DC - October 24, 2006 2:23:00 AM
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Jeep
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Onstudent-
You resist/argue with the PTs here that have "real world" experience regarding salaries/income. And although, still a student, and never having or being offered a job as a PT.......Apparently you know more? Please detail.
WHY are you in PT school? When do you graduate? What are your plans upon graduation? If you plan to operate 2-3 clincs(per previous posts), how do you plan to do this(financing, employees etc)-----do you plan to treat patients also?
In all of your posts here(and on other boards)Your big thing is money. I have never once observed you to post about concern for the patients that will be under your care, or inquiry of various treaments/conditions, or academic questions of ANY kind(something that-IMO would be very important to a student).
BTW-Your anti-DC position has been posted here and other forums------ What direct relationships have you had with DCs to support this postition?
And also, just to prevent you from making more mis/ill-informed declarations.....DCs are licensed in Canada, and OD= Optometric Doctor---Are they not licensed in Canada?
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Re: salary for a new PT vs a new DC - October 24, 2006 7:00:00 AM
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jesse14
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First off, i'm not even sure what a "troll" means? I asked a question and got some flack for doing so... not cool. Yes, i have asked similar questions on other bords but what's wrong with that? Different ppl frequent different sites and maybe i can get a fresh or different perspective from someone on this site. ONstudentPt is right, i am struggling with the decision to become a DC and i believe he understands where i come from as our talks on the SDN have illustrated. I, unlike him, like chiropractic and feel it has a place in health care in Canada but that's ok. We don't have to agree on everything.
Jbird.. what lies would you be talking about? What reeason would i have to lie on a discussion site full of strangers? That would defeat the purpose of asking questions and gtting realistic answers. If i'm fabricating the facts, i'd be recieving faulty information from you guys based on those facts, and that would be of no use to me. See my point?
Maybe asking a DC related question on a PT website was a bad idea from the get go. My bad!
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Re: salary for a new PT vs a new DC - October 24, 2006 11:44:00 AM
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ONstudentPT555
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Jeep,
The information on salary and income I have are from individuals and recent graduates whom I know personally.
What do you know about PT in Canada?
I post and talk about what ever I want and btw you should pay a bit more attention to what you say .. because although I have made posts about income I have also made other posts which are not just concerned with income and salary.
Who are you to judge me?
And again this is a PT forum if i wanted a DCs opinion I would go else where.. so it really doesnt concern me what you say or what your opinion is on PT issues.
Again Pay attention .. i didnt say DCs werent liscenced in Canada .. what I meant to say was osteopathic doctors cannot work as physicians in Canada.
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Re: salary for a new PT vs a new DC - October 24, 2006 11:57:00 AM
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Jeep
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>>>I have also made other posts which are not just concerned with income and salary. <<<
YUP!! I missed your ONE non-money question/post on 10-19-06.
OOPS!-----My bad!!
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Re: salary for a new PT vs a new DC - October 24, 2006 1:34:00 PM
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ONstudentPT555
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Jeep
No problem but actually you are wrong again there are more then just one.
But I will answer some of your other questions. Do I plan to open several clinics? ... umm...well me opening any clinic will be in a distant future.. the point is that I can garantee you that there are physios who do own several clinics.. and are successful.. of course there are many risks in business and the potential to totally fail is there as well. There are many other options for PTs as well.
What is my beef with chiros?
Well i dont have any personal vendettas against any specific chiros.
The thing is i dont agree with a lot of the chiro philosophies with that being said there of course chiros who can do some good with MSK stuff. I personally wouldnt mix PT with Chiro but anyways that just my opinion so no big deal.
Also the big problem with chiros is that as a whole organization they will do anything to promote themselves even if that includes belittling other professions such as PT.
For example
The Canadian Chiro association released an add to the public: " Can you Diagnose your back? well neighter can a Physiotherapist"
When in fact PTs can and do diagnose backs and other conditions all over canada and soon legislation will pass to officially allow them to in Ontario as well.
So why would I want to work with a profession whose association tries to belittle mine? Doesnt make sense. I would rather progress and promote my own profession.
Another problem is Chiros advertising they can offer physiotherapy services when they dont even have a physio working at the clinic which seems a little missleading to me.
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Re: salary for a new PT vs a new DC - October 24, 2006 1:51:00 PM
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proud
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>>>>>For example
The Canadian Chiro association released an add saying that " Can you Diagnose your back? well neighter can Physiotherapist">>>>>
ONstudent555,
I think that was an add placed in a New York paper from orthopeadic surgeons, not chiropractors. Unless I missed something.
And oh yeah...fire your spell checker.
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Re: salary for a new PT vs a new DC - October 24, 2006 1:57:00 PM
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ONstudentPT555
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Proud,
Sometimes I write too fast and dont pay attention to my spelling. A representative from the OPA came to our class and she is the one who brought the add up so it was definetly a chiro source.
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Re: salary for a new PT vs a new DC - October 24, 2006 2:29:00 PM
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Jeep
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Onstudent-
You don't need to make excuses for your poor spelling, it is the least of your problems.
You posted:
>>>"The Canadian Chiro association released an add to the public: " Can you Diagnose your back? well neighter can a Physiotherapist""<<<
Well that declaration is a total, erroneous, fabrication. See:
http://blog.evidenceinmotion.com/evidence/files/Legislative_Gaz_Ad_-_Orthopaedic_Surgeons1.pdf
It was not DCs.......is was paid for by Orthopedic surgeons.
And it was not in Canada.......it was in New York.
New York is in the USA, not Canada. To help you remember.......The USA does not have a picture of the Queen on their money.
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Re: salary for a new PT vs a new DC - October 24, 2006 2:32:00 PM
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ONstudentPT555
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Jeep,
You are confused .. thats not the add I am talking about ..it was a Canadian add at least the one I am talking about.. .. and it still doesnt excuse the false adverstising.
Oh and I would be more worried about your own problems not mine. Maybe you can come up with a better rebuttal next time instead of a personal insult and trying to BELITTLE people.
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Re: salary for a new PT vs a new DC - October 24, 2006 3:02:00 PM
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proud
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Jeep,
You beat me to it. I was just about to post that.
However Jeep, I do not think you need to react in such a defensive manner.
I pointed out the spelling for a bit of fun. We all type away and miss a few keys. This is not english class here.
>>>>>>Onstudent-
You don't need to make excuses for your poor spelling, it is the least of your problems.>>>>
I think that comment was lacking in professional conduct.
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Re: salary for a new PT vs a new DC - October 24, 2006 5:22:00 PM
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Synergy
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This whole thread is 'lacking in professional conduct'. I can't understand why those with certain issues avoid taking their conversations elsewhere, i.e. via email and/or private messaging. It's time to get off the playground.
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Re: salary for a new PT vs a new DC - October 24, 2006 5:33:00 PM
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jbird007
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""....I wish that I had Jesse's Girl...""
..guitar..Jesse's girl!!!...
rick springfield...anyone remember?? :|
ok sorry..
Jbird
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Re: salary for a new PT vs a new DC - October 24, 2006 6:38:00 PM
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james097
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On Student, My goodness another error on your part! We do have osteopathic physicians practicing in Canada. The ones in BC are registered under section 37 of the Medical Practitioners Act and if I remember are drugless practitioners. They trained in Kirksville or
LosAngeles. In addition some physicians are osteopaths from the UK who in addition to being MDs attended the london School of Osteopathy.
Again there are several UK graduate Osteopaths here who have a Masters degree. In Canada an Osteopathic school educates those who already have graduated in such as PT., Chiro and kinesiology as osteopaths.
James
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