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Re: Remembering those on 9/11 - September 12, 2006 6:58:00 AM
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proud
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He once figured I was Allan Botnick. I think he still might...
Hey Jeep, did you get the JOSPT article?
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Re: Remembering those on 9/11 - September 12, 2006 9:07:00 AM
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jbird007
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Jeep,
Simply put, the Bush administration had a hand in the attacks of Sept. 11 in order to spark an invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq.
"Reality is a thin line between denial and paranoia."
JBird
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Re: Remembering those on 9/11 - September 12, 2006 9:47:00 AM
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jlharris
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sigh...Can't believe I'm responding, but here goes.
1. Pentagon is 77ft tall A B757's tail stands 44ft off the ground and I believe this is with the gear down, which would have not been the case here. So It'd be even lower.
2. Can you - or better yet the average Joe Blow - tell the difference between a B757, B737, A330, or a Citation X? Not really. Varying stories on what it looked like don't bother me. Ask 10 people what the car was in a drive by and you're likely to get 10 different reports. This is human nature.
3. Fire and the collision would take care of finding full wings or tail sections. There is no fusalage left either.
4. I don't have a good answer as to why all this "supposed" additional footage of the Pentagon strike hasn't been released. You win on that one.
Question for you: What happened to the real B757 as all aboard if that plane didn't hit the Pentagon, as you say it didn't? Bramuda Triangle?
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Re: Remembering those on 9/11 - September 12, 2006 10:03:00 AM
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Shill
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"Paranoia is for those who cant handle reality"
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Re: Remembering those on 9/11 - September 12, 2006 10:04:00 AM
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jbird007
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Simply: the tapes would shut every single one of us "truth activists" up, yet they will not show them. It would show where "it" was exactly, how high or low "it" was flying, and if "it" was a plane, it would show what happened to the wings and tail sections and we could observe frame by frame exactly what happened.
This 911 "puzzle" has more missing pieces than just the Pentagon crash issue. This is just one of many. There are just too many unanswered questions, too many misleading answers, a huge discrepancy in the answers given, a large-scale avoidance of presenting factual evidence which includes videotapes, photos, and eyewitness accounts topped off with the power struggle by Bush to avoid any type of investigational matters on the issue is a flat-out crime in itself.
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Re: Remembering those on 9/11 - September 12, 2006 12:25:00 PM
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jbird007
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observe this pentagon video clip..hit play then hit the stop button and take a good look. Then try to imagine what a commerical jet would do to; the ground, the building... and its surroundings. These pictures clearly show no large aircraft hit the Pentagon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3uYf2dtAr4
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Re: Remembering those on 9/11 - September 12, 2006 12:47:00 PM
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jbird007
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUxLwItWU4Q
watch Bush's final answer:
reporter asks: What role did Iraq have on 911?
Bush says:..nothing.
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Re: Remembering those on 9/11 - September 12, 2006 2:33:00 PM
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rv36116
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Building 7, anyone, anyone at all?
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Re: Remembering those on 9/11 - September 12, 2006 3:27:00 PM
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jbird007
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How about the Twin Towers? Explain why they free fell.
JBird
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Re: Remembering those on 9/11 - September 12, 2006 5:08:00 PM
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jbird007
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Sorry, I have seen that rubbish that took them almost 5 years to produce.
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Re: Remembering those on 9/11 - September 12, 2006 7:38:00 PM
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jbird007
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We could go back and forth for days couldn't we? And our opinions won't change one iota, will they?
Like any controversial issue, if one chooses to seek the truth one needs to have all the information presented. Then it becomes their choice to derive a conclusion they can honestly accept.
Many people of the United States are calling for a new independant investigation on 911. If our government is innocent and has nothing to hide, then they should welcome it with open arms.
Jbird
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Re: Remembering those on 9/11 - September 12, 2006 8:17:00 PM
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rv36116
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[QUOTE]Junction13 said
"The reasons for the collpase of WTC 7 is also available on several sites associated with civil and mechanical engineering programs of university systems on the Internet. You only need to look for it. It's not hidden information."[/QUOTE]I showed you the evidence on what I was talking about, do you have any specific links?
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Re: Remembering those on 9/11 - September 13, 2006 6:49:00 AM
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jbird007
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Junction, why are you dismissing Silversteins confession that he ordered Bldg 7 pulled?
The proof is right in your face yet you choose to look elsewhere and use other avenues.
Bldg 7 fell because it was a planned explosion ordered by Silverstein. He admitted it and several fireman vouched for the orders. No need for research studies.
Jbird
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Re: Remembering those on 9/11 - September 13, 2006 7:30:00 AM
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jbird007
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Building 7 collapsed because it was brought down by controlled demolition. It is as simple as that.
The questions should be directed such as:
How were the explosives planted? Who did the job? Lets get some names of the people
responsible.
Nevermind that a company called Controlled Demolition, Inc, was hired to clean up Ground Zero. What a coincidence! And they were handsomely paid to remove the WTC 7 as fast as possible, since there was "no loss of life" and therefore no human remains to recover.
This is a part of being a responsible American citizen - to demand the truth and hold the evildoers accountable.
Another problem is many people refute this argument because it makes them uncomfortable. It's a sort of cognitive dissonance that they refuse to believe. However all the physical evidence shows that WTC 7 was "pulled" and that the implications go far beyond "structural failure." Buildings don't just fall down.
JBird
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Re: Remembering those on 9/11 - September 13, 2006 7:33:00 AM
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jbird007
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LOL! So you are saying they got the order to pull it? ..and that in a moments notice someone or some company set up the demolition in split-second time to bring it down?
Tell me Junction, how long does it take an experienced demolition team to set up a building the size of Bldg 7 for an implosion?
5 minutes? an hour? two? 3 days? one week?
Factor into the equation the bldg is already damaged and burning. Hmm?
JBird
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Re: Remembering those on 9/11 - September 13, 2006 7:47:00 AM
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Jon Newman
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[URL=http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/index.html]The 9/11 Truth Movement in Perspective[/URL]
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Re: Remembering those on 9/11 - September 13, 2006 7:48:00 AM
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jbird007
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Correst me if I am wrong Junction,
Did you say earlier that bldg 7 fell due to structural damage?
Are you now saying it was pulled?
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Re: Remembering those on 9/11 - September 13, 2006 7:49:00 AM
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jbird007
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Whats your thoughts Jon?
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Re: Remembering those on 9/11 - September 13, 2006 8:19:00 AM
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Shill
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Here are some interesting thoughts.
Schizophrenia is a serious disorder which affects how a person thinks, feels and acts. Someone with schizophrenia may have difficulty distinguishing between what is real and what is imaginary.
Paranoid schizophrenia -- a person feels extremely suspicious, persecuted, or grandiose, or experiences a combination of these emotions.
A person with schizophrenia explains: "My concentration often floats in and out so that I only hear part of a sentence. Maybe I will miss two or three words. This will make it very difficult for me to understand."
Please understand that I am not making light of Schizophrenia, I am hypothesizing that some similar characteristics, in those who feel there is a conspiracy, may explain some of the belief in irrational and delusional ideas. Obviously, this is on a sub-clinical scale, as these are functioning members of society, but nevertheless it is interesting.
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Re: Remembering those on 9/11 - September 13, 2006 10:21:00 AM
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jbird007
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Shill,
When a conspiracy is proved (without a doubt) to be true, what do you call that person?
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