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jma -> Year long paid internships (March 4, 2005 4:32:00 AM)

Hello,
Just got the brochure for PT 2005 and happened to come across the educational programming section as saw something very interesting.

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  • Implementing Yearlong Paid Internships in Physical Therapy Professional Education
    Speakers: Mary Knab, Pt, DPT; Donna L. Applebaum, PT, DPT, MS

    Here is your opportunity to examine the implementation of a year-long paid clinical interships as part of physical therapist education.
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    Talk about getting money!!! Expecially, when clinical affiliations are getting longer and longer? Who wouldn't appreciate this? If I had to do it again and realized that there are some programs that have this, I would have certainly have gone there.

    Comments?

    JMA



    • JLS_PT_OCS -> Re: Year long paid internships (March 4, 2005 6:56:00 AM)

    I had a student just ask me about this yesterday.

    I gave her a blank, "You've got to be kidding me" type of look.
    This is fairly common in other fields, I know strength and conditioning specialists provide this at some facilities, as a way to pay for the work an intern does while being taught.
    Certainly medical interns are paid (albeit not much) as well.



    SJBird55 -> Re: Year long paid internships (March 4, 2005 6:56:00 AM)

    Ummm, who is doing the paying? And, what's the catch if I'm in a program that says that and when they say that it is not meant to mean that I'm flipping the bill?



    jma -> Re: Year long paid internships (March 4, 2005 7:23:00 AM)

    This would be a good program for PT program directors to go to. I'm sure they would have all the answers to these and other questions one might have about this.

    JMA



    Ref_in_Rehab -> Re: Year long paid internships (March 4, 2005 10:31:00 AM)

    I graduated from Samuel Merritt College in 2000 where a 6 month paid internship is the finale to the program. The balanced budget repercussions were going wild at that time so not everyone in my graduating class got a paid internship, but most of us were able to get some sort of a stipend (mine was $2k/mo). We had to spend at least 2 months of the 6 in different settings (inpatient, outpatient, rehab, peds, etc.)

    I think it's a great idea, I hit the ground running at the end of my internship and boards were not any problem at all. That being said, I wish I would have had more experienced/involved mentors in my setting.

    All in all, I think it would be a great thing to improve the effectiveness of new grad PT's...add something similar to our education after taking the boards, call it a residency, and the "D" in the DPT may gain more respect amongst other professionals.

    Sean



    jma -> Re: Year long paid internships (March 5, 2005 4:03:00 AM)

    Hello,
    At least you got something out of it. I never had that option and no one would have heard of talked about it at the time.

    JMA



    mcap56 -> Re: Year long paid internships (March 5, 2005 5:09:00 AM)

    The market for PTs can only handle about as much education as is currently required. You are asking grads to go to school for 3 to 3 1/2 years for a DPT and then asking them to do an intership afterward for 6 months or more?? Why would I want to go to a paid intership instead of starting to work and pay back my loans. Starting salaries aren't much higher than when I graduated. As an educator, I am all for education and mentorship but reality must intrude at some point if we want to attract quality people.

    We can keep adding more education and experience. But the truth is that a therapist personally determines what kind of clinician they will be. How many grads put all of their resources into an entry level education and then refuse to read when they graduate? How many do you see reading journals or texts? How many run to the latest gimmick/guru course?

    If there therapist has the means, and the experience is availble, great! There are also other clinical residency programs out there to consider also. This should never be part of our curriculum however.

    mcap



    JLS_PT_OCS -> Re: Year long paid internships (March 7, 2005 5:43:00 AM)

    SJ, I don't understand what this statement means:
    "And, what's the catch if I'm in a program that says that and when they say that it is not meant to mean that I'm flipping the bill?"

    Could you explain?

    Please go easy on me and keep in mind I am a military therapist, so payment issues never come up. I know that there would be issues in payment and reimbursement due to an intern seeing a patient, but not sure what those might be...

    J



    SJBird55 -> Re: Year long paid internships (March 8, 2005 1:05:00 AM)

    Generally one never gets anything for free, so if a year long internship is paid by someone, what requirements do I have to meet or what are my obligations? The person/institution paying for that internship wanting some need to be met. I would also look into what the particular institution is defined as and how services are billed - because I would question whether services of students can be billed in all situations and what level of supervision is occurring IF the services are being billed.



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