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GregPT -> Gifts of appreciation from patients. (April 29, 2000 3:23:00 AM)

How do people handle situations when patients try to tip you for services provided? In my experience, Food/candy is readily accepted, yet monetary gifts are greatly frowned upon.

I recently received a card in the mail, enclosed with a check. What is the best way to handle this situation?

Thanks




Andrew M. Ball, MS, PT -> Re: Gifts of appreciation from patients. (April 29, 2000 4:56:00 AM)

Forum,

Interesting question. Personally, I enjoy the opening monologue of the Quiton T. pre-Pulp Fiction flick, "Reservoir Dogs" where Mr. Pink goes on, and on, and on about how he doesn't tip. In short, he doesn't believe in it. Why are there some professions that are tip-worthy and others that are not?? The kid behind the counter at MacDonald’s works just as hard as the woman at the local diner . . . and I'm sure most Neurosurgeons are under a lot of pressure, but they are not tip-worthy.

I suppose that for healthcare, it all gets down to the issue of being a professional. I for one would like to be able to expect certain things of my healthcare providers.

1. I want them to be technically/clinically skilled

2. I want them to be up-to-date with the literature

3. I want them to have a friendly bedside manner, and finally . . .

4. I want to be able to pick out a toy when I'm done like I did as a kid when I went to the dentist!

Accepting tips somehow warps things a bit. Will this patient expect preferred patient status the next time PT is required? I can just here someone at a party talking about how lousy their PT was, not because they didn't get them better, and not because they had a bad bedside manner . . . but because they wanted that hotpack on their back just one last time, and "that %@#%ing PT said my insurance had run out . . . yeah, he was quick to take that $20 tip that I dropped on him though . . ."

Is this patient (or any other that tries to leave a tip) going to expect a BETTER level of care than outlined above??? Heck it's hard enough to find one of the four points listed above in any one individual. Does tipping entitle me to expect all four plus a few added expectations?

Tough issue though, how do you turn down a patient's tip without insulting what was intended to be a well-intentioned act of gratitude???

I don’t ever accept tips of any kind from a patient or family . . . but I did have an unusual experience recently. About a year ago, I volunteered some of my time to consult with a clinician in my area who was actually one of the inspirations for me to go back to school and get my Doctorate. She just defended and finished her EdD last week, so let me give a big "shout out" to her . . . you know who you are Dr. A.

This woman owes me nothing, and if anyone should be tipping it should be me. In any event, she had what she considered to be a particularly complicated orthotic case that I helped her out with. About 2 weeks later, I got a hand drawn picture from the child (which is framed on my wall), a picture of the child taking her first step using her new orthotics and a posture control walker, and a gift certificate for dinner from the parent.

I of course contacted Dr. A to discuss the situation. Even having volunteered my time, I still felt a little slimy about taking and using the certificate. Dr. A informed me that the child, had come up with the idea.

Great.

Now to refuse the offer would be insulting to the child. I went over options in my mind. Should I save the certificate and ask the family to join me for dinner sometime (no, that's WAY too personal). In hindsight, I should have asked Dr. A to join me for dinner and just used the certificate then. That’s not what I did either.

In the end, I went and got a steak with my ex-fiance. It tasted wonderful, and the evening was very relaxing . . . but the meal gave me indigestion for a few days . . . I'm guessing a food poisoning more powerful than salmonella . . . the guilt of compromising my principles perhaps?

If I were you, I'd explain that in order to ensure in your mind and the eyes of the public that all patients were treated equally, AND to eliminate the APPEARANCE of inpropriety . . . that you cannot accept this very gracious gift. I have however seen clinics take tips and put them into a special fund specifically set aside to pay for things for other patients that are not covered by insurance (like one more session, or ionto, or whatever). That gets tricky too . . . who's qualified to get this little perk????

I'ts just easiest to graciously refuse.

[This message has been edited by Andrew M. Ball, MS, PT (edited April 29, 2000).]




Dana D -> Re: Gifts of appreciation from patients. (April 29, 2000 6:06:00 AM)

Tough situation!

On clinical affiliations, I've basically had to follow the policy of the facility.
For example, I was treating a man with post polio syndrome and his wife had tickets to a play in the area. She said she knew no one who would want them and didn't want them to go to waste. I shared this with my CI and she took them, gave them to our director who then returned them...

??? I don't necessarily agree with that. The way I look at it, is she didn't want the tickets to go to waste and thought of me. I would do that with my neighbor, classmate or friend. It's not like she went out and bought them for me specifically?? oh well, i guess it was their policy.

But then on another affiliation, a sweet elderly man..... I treated him for a non-operatable rotator cuff tear. Sweetest, kindest man... he was so supportive of me being a student.... When I d/ced him, he gave me a card and said to open it at the end of my day... I assumed it was a note... It was the most "awesomest" note.. from his heart, appreciating all that I've done for him....... along with 20 bucks.... What could I do? I felt a bit guilty, but I kept it. I would feel worse if I made a big stink and rejected it... I know how old people work, my grandparents for example... they would never take it back.... [IMG]http://www.rehabedge.com/forums/smile.gif[/IMG]

It seems where I work now, gifts are accepted all the time. I work in a preschool setting, so the kids all give gifts at the end of the year to their teachers and therapists..as well as over the holidays. .It's as when I was in school, and gave my teacher an ornament for Christmas... being a school setting...
Same with my homevisits... So, I've accepted. Everyone else does... ???
I don't think they do it to expect better services, I think they do it because they've grown to know us as therapists as well as individuals... and truly appreciate the time we spend with their child. Some gifts have been extremely generous... but they made the effort to buy something, give it... they are doing it because they want to, because they are appreciative... I feel it's worse to reject, some people take offense to it...
And again, everyone else I work with does it.....
we see everyone's desks at the holiday season (even our supervisors) with big things of wine, candles, candy, etc....

I make it a point during the holiday season to get my kids a small something. I went to
the dollar store and bought coloring books and crayons for them (more of an OT thing [IMG]http://www.rehabedge.com/forums/smile.gif[/IMG], but I did have them reach for the crayons, or step up a step for them, or something PT related ahahha) and I do make it a point for their birthdays too.... something thoughtful, something small....
I'm that kind of person I guess.

It is a tough situation....... it's your call really, what you feel comfortable with.

Sometimes parents ask what they can give to show their appreciation, and we often suggest a donation to the clinic... Say a therapy ball, or a toy... something along those lines. We do try to encourage that, rather than personal gifts.......

Yeah Drew, it is strange how some jobs are tip-worthy... some people tip the paper boy, but not the mailman.....
or the waiter but not the deli man who prepared your sandwich....
or the cab driver but not the bus driver....

Strange how society defines tipping...




SandyPT -> Re: Gifts of appreciation from patients. (April 29, 2000 3:02:00 PM)

Simple solution.... Donate the money to charity. Then write the patient a thank you note letting him know what you did with the money and that you appreciated his thoughtfulness. I would consider it a gift not a "tip"




GregPT -> Re: Gifts of appreciation from patients. (April 30, 2000 11:06:00 AM)

For me this situation is easier to handle in person, although some people become upset and offended if you refuse their gift, and insist you take it. (and you can judge by their tone in voice, body language, etc. if there will be a problem) For a patient to receive a returned check in the mail with an explaination in writing might be misinterpreted.

Can anyone explain why is it that most places gladly take food or candy without a debate, yet money is a different story. It is funny how some professions accept gifts/tips, yet others forbid it.

I worked at one place that took monetary gifts and put it towards the departments book fund, and the patients were notified in the thank you note. (But we still accepted a gift/tip)

I do like the idea of putting it towards a charity, but then I am still accepting some form of gift/tip from the former patient.

Are the guidelines based on the policy and procedures of our employers or is there mention of this in our PT practice act??




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