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Re: kinesio taping - April 26, 2004 11:48:00 AM
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Jon Newman
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I have to think that taping provides some cutaneous input/novel information to the wearer. Dr. Wagner's allusion to a TENS discussion had earlier is valid. I think taping and TENS are very similar in how they exert a treatment effect(and indeed, both are temporary). It seems much more biologically plausible than what was offered at the course. It is frustrating to me that hours are spent learning the special techniques when it is more likely that the cutaneous input and therapeutic interaction are what are responsible for any clincal effect.
An advantage tape may have is that it's greatest input is during movement (when most pain occurs) while TENS is running pretty much all the time lending to quicker habituation. I'm obviously theorizing here as no research has been done along this line. Additionally, taping has no wires or batteries.
Meagan M, I'm glad they were wrong that you would be disabled the rest of your life. I think, however, that you aren't giving yourself enough credit for that achievement. I think it was clearly you who achieved your good outcome. Good job!
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Re: kinesio taping - July 1, 2004 1:11:00 PM
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rockland ortho
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I use kinesiotaping frequently in my practice. I mostly use it to help "support" muscles of joints that I am trying to help stabilize. For example, when pts have inversion ankle sprains, I commonly use it to support the peroneals; for medial knee pain (due to various reasons), I place it medially in the "X" formation with the side of the X above and below the patella, and sometimes apply it to the VMO. Also, pts with pain at the quad or patella tendons, I use it there to help support the tendons. I have also used it to "pull up" an arch for plantar fasc pats., I know there is very little scientific information, but pts report significant pain reduction. (Actually these posts have inspired me to start an outcomes study...)
Application-wise, I put the muscle to be "supported' into its stretch position, and then apply the tape.
I hope this helps...
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Re: kinesio taping - July 5, 2004 4:18:00 PM
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rodgere
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ArmyPT can you send me those pics rodgere@chartermi.net
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Re: kinesio taping - July 6, 2004 12:33:00 AM
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Alex Brenner PT MPT OCS
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Rodger,
I never received pictures of the tape in question. I am assuming they are using Leukotape. Sorry that I am not helpful.
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Re: kinesio taping - July 12, 2004 1:07:00 PM
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VagusX
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I recently decided to start doing simple taping of the shoulder and scap to see how they turn out.
I already found out the hard way that this stuff really sticks. One of my patients visited my office early to show me how the tape had taken off about a dime size piece of her superficial epidermis. She said that an area underneath the tape was bothering her. She pealed it back in the shower and she found the wound. I'm not sure there was a wound in the first place and it got irritated or she was allergic but I'm going to make sure that I'm extra careful with skin prep before I apply any more.
How are you guys prepping the area and removing the kineseo tape to allow for the most patient confort/safety? I've been using Milk of Magnesia to prep the skin. When it need removing I either carefully peel the tape back with a pair of scissors incase of hair or letting it fall off by itself.
Any other suggestions?
Thanks
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Re: kinesio taping - July 12, 2004 1:18:00 PM
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UTDC
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Hey Dan,
I have not found kinesiotape to be as problematic as leukotape or the white base tape, however there are some who are sensitive to it. I don't have much of a problem with patients skin anymore as I instruct them to remove the tape at the first sign of itching or burning and they never wear it for more than 48 hours and carefully remove it with lots of warm soapy water in the shower- pulling back at 180 degrees not 90.
A PT friend of mine actually had a patient go into anaphylaxis, however that was the only time I have heard of such a thing. My understanding is that those with lighter hair/skin/eyes are more at risk for hypersensitivity.
M.O.M. huh? Never heard of that one. Sometimes I will use one of the prep sprays, but not usually.
There are a few horror stories out there, but I have had good luck with the above protocol. I suppose doing a test patch would be prudent, I just don't make a habit of it.
I hope that helps,
Jeff
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Re: kinesio taping - July 14, 2004 5:35:00 AM
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hmgross
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I ask the person if they consider their skin "sensitive" then I do a small test patch. Nurses have used MOM for years to treat skin rashes around ostomy sites, etc. I have used it as a prep as well. Most people tolerate kineseotape just fine, but there are always a few who are sensitive to any type of tape so instruction (remove if itching) is important.
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Re: kinesio taping - July 23, 2004 6:29:00 AM
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sharpdirector
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Where in England can you get the kineio tape I want to alert my PT. She uses Leukotape with an underlay and I remove tape using acetone. Are there illustraions of different techniques for reeducating posture anywhere
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Re: kinesio taping - July 23, 2004 11:22:00 AM
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spolnick
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J,
I don't know if anyone else has addressed this with you, I haven't read all of the replies.
"kinesio taping" is very, very different from using leukotape for McConnell type taping. One of my employees went to the course and brought back a lot of useful information and techniques using kinesio tape. I have found it useful for a variety of things. I also use leukotape for McConnell taping of knees, shoulders etc.
The kinesiotape stretches longitudinally and not horizontally, and there are "degrees of stetch" you place on the tape.
Try the website,www.kinesiotaping.com for a better explanation.
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Re: kinesio taping - July 23, 2004 11:24:00 AM
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spolnick
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P.S. Kinesiotape is more comfortable on the skin, but it adheres better with HEAT. Removal works best when skin temps are normal, not after a hot shower.....
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Re: kinesio taping - July 24, 2004 4:40:00 PM
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Oklapt
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I use kinesiotape with great results for edema especially post op acl, total knee and ankle sprains. I do usually use a test patch if the patient has had hypersensitivity to adhesives in the past. Lance Armstrong endorsed it on the website
kinesiotaping.com They have a few pics but not many. I would recommend a course on this if you really want to get the principles down. I have not had it but did have a P.T. in the clinic who did and gave an inservice. I've been using it for about 3 years.
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Re: kinesio taping - July 24, 2004 4:41:00 PM
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Oklapt
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The great thing with kinesiotape is you can do the McConell technique but with only 2 strips of the kinesiotape and it will last a day to 3 days.
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Re: kinesio taping - July 25, 2004 5:05:00 PM
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Oklapt
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Sorry guys I had the wrong spelling of Isaiah and wrong verse, thanks for the help. :)
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