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Re: PT and OT difference - October 11, 2005 5:51:00 AM
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OaksPT
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Yogi & Diane,
I think the split isn't as much male vs female, I see it as more as in I treat by using techniques with a measurable or at least a grounded theory for basis of use, whether simple contact, stabilization, or a neurodynamic approach. The OT/mom approach(just generalizing, nobody get pissed) tends to take emotions into account regarding the treatment. As I stated before, I feel this is important, but not something I am apt to deal with.
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Re: PT and OT difference - October 11, 2005 9:17:00 AM
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Yogi
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Diane, nah, the ones that stay together decide to stay together, and either value the differences, or live with'em.
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Re: PT and OT difference - October 11, 2005 10:42:00 AM
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jma
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Our rehab teams pairs a PT with an OT. I far as I'm concerned, its a perfect match and double team.
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Re: PT and OT difference - April 10, 2006 6:52:00 AM
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bhenchodh
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This forum topic and others like this one make it clear that PT students need to be taught the roles and scope of practice of ATCs, Personal Trainers, OTs, DCs, DOs, Sports medicine physicians, Orthopedists, and Orthopedic Surgeons. The information should also include an overview of the opinions and legislative actions of each profession's representative/ licensing association, and involvement in Federal and State government when it comes to physical therapy. I think PT schools cannot ignore the views of these professions that have a direct impact on the future of Physical Therapy (and vice versa!). Schools focus too much on just physical therapy scope of practice and current affairs only in physical therapy. APTA could even have an annual continuing ed class based on this material.
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Re: PT and OT difference - April 13, 2006 6:55:00 PM
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Rwantz
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I think that there is even becoming a blur between PTs, ATs, and OTs. ATs are well behind everyone else, but are obviously trying.
I think that each has a different approach and each can operate very well in a team. I think that there is going to be someone that feels that they need to be the head, but this isn't always necessary. I think a team approach in some respects could work very well.
There are very good PTs, ATs and OTs. And there are some that have not impressed me. Would you be treated by an NFL AT or your fellow PT for a s/p ACL? Would it work to be treated by them as a team? Sure it would, if someone stepped down.
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Re: PT and OT difference - April 15, 2006 1:03:00 PM
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Before we get too mushy and friendly and think like we are a big happy family...the OTs I have met have very strong different agenda far away from the PT world. They give me a feeling and a complex that they "own" treatments to upper extermities. (Spine specialist OTs are coming..be watchful) Just beacuse PTs are the "cowboy" like only wanting to treat sports injuries i.e. shoulders and knees, OTs silently took over the PT turf of hand rehabilitation. I even took a con ed on hand rehabilitation from an OT and in the entire seminar she had an attitude towards PTs she had worked with before she went into teaching. Moreover, every hand surgeon in my area is so **** mesmerized by OTs who are CHTs that I practically do not see any pts from these surgeons. Every OT I have met claims to be somewhat of a hand specialist..is this what everone has seen? I feel we are have already divided human body into segments: Hands (OTs), Knees(PTs), Spine(DCs) etc... But the truth is: PTs can treat everything as we are Movement Specialists.
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Re: PT and OT difference - April 16, 2006 12:10:00 AM
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nari
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goodlooks
It is similar in Australia; except with hand rehab it is equally divided, and the OTs respect this; PTs and OTs share the rehab process equally, including splinting.
Confuses the doctors no end. OTs certainly concentrate on the upper limb, but with very different methodology. It doesn't mean that PTs don't treat upper limb too.
The problem arises: if there is a home visit to a stroke person, eg, who goes? Does the PT then have to "do" lower limb only as in gait retraining? So as not to double up on services?
I think there are potential problems in the future; but at present things are aimiable and joint sessions occur sometimes.
Nari
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Re: PT and OT difference - April 18, 2006 5:26:00 PM
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tucker
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Strange...I was just telling someone today that at a certain Shriner's Burns facility, the OTs and PTs are cross-trained to be a 'burn therapist'. So a PT or OT performs both roles for the patient. I doubt this would ever happen outside of a Shriner's-funded facilty, but something to think about.
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Re: PT and OT difference - April 20, 2006 5:57:00 PM
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TBI was another area that was delivering transdisciplinary care before anyone had really even defined it. The beauty of that model when it is really working is that in a compelex patient with an even more complex life situation and future at hand (body recovers brain not recovering fully with good organs and a life expectency of often normal ranges), we HAD to look at the patient's life goals vs. our own discipline specific goals. For example with our young adults, the goal of returning to school or work meant cognition, behavior, vision, reading comprehension, social skills, mobility, IADL's...in addition to a family's reaction to the catastrophic injury.
We as "brain injury therapists" approached a patient looking at these broader goals and applied a treatment model that allowed our own expertise to collectively address them. It can be an amazing model with the right education and leadership of the team. The home visits, school visits, work site visits that were performed utilized the expertise of those most critical to the visit.
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Re: PT and OT difference - April 21, 2006 1:51:00 PM
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nari
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Carroll
OTs and PTs have always joined forces in TBI; along with the Speech pathologists, Social Workers and neuropsychologists. OTs have a smaller role to play here in the acute area; and they do not deal with issues of mobility or social skills to any extent. I guess we have tighter boundaries; the OT comes more into chronic long term issues with TBIs and others.
However, although each discipline has a specific role to play, some have more than others due to broader educational skills. The needs of the patient dictate who is the primary carer.
Nari
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Re: PT and OT difference - April 22, 2006 9:23:00 AM
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cnelligan
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Nari,
Thanks for sharing that. Also, interesting in my years practicing East Coast, vs. Midwest that areas were split out a little differently and mindset of "turf" vs. patient needs etc. I am one OT that never wanted to go near hands! LOL
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