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Re: Should PTs be called "Dr." - February 24, 2005 11:52:00 AM
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Andrew M. Ball PT PhD
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The UNC program wasn't up and running fully when I decided to complete my DPT through MGH Institute at Harvard, but it seems to have the most peds electives of any of the transitional programs --- and between Darlene Sekarak, PT, PhD; Angela Rosenberg, PT, DrPH, Deb Thorpe, PT, PhD, and Vicki Mercer, PT, PhD --- as a ped PT, ya can't go wrong with a t-DPT program there. I was about ready to leave peds anyhow, so it made little difference to me personally.
The UNC program has a several DPT electives that are designed for the pediatric clinician, the MGH program has a few too, but I don't know the profs quite as well.
Finally, it should be noted that just because there isn't a t-DPT course called "peds" doesn't mean that peds isn't covered. For me, it may surprise many to learn that I actually learned the most about the evidence base for pediatric physical therapy treatments in an MBA/PhD course called something like "Economics and Efficiency of Early Intervention Systems." It's the same with t-DPT courses in radiology, pharm, and DiffDx.
As a peds therapist, radiology and an updated pharmacology course were VERY helpful. Contrary to popular belief (sarcasm intended), our pediatric clients break bones and take medications too . . .
Not to mention the MRI markers of sensory integration appropriate kids with autism versus the MRI markers of SI inappropriate kids. (Interested in what I'm talking about, there is a CEUworld.com course on the subject, look-up Rodie's research --- or try a t-DPT course).
Which is to say that pediatric cases and topics were covered within pharm, radiology, and DiffDx coursework. I think, however, that the peds therapists had a tougher time with radiology than the ortho PT's.
Drew
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Re: Should PTs be called "Dr." - February 25, 2005 3:33:00 AM
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Yogi
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Drew, you can go to meetings and put Dr. on your name tag now. I knew an OT that had a PhD in entomology that used to do that at conferences. I got a kick out of it, and, hey, she earned that Doctorate. So as far as any status goes, if you have earned whatever it is, use it. As far as in the clinic, you could I suppose, insist on being called Dr., it at least gives the M.D.s notice you expect some respect. But I can really see how there could be some pt. problems in some mixed-degree clinics. That would not be good. I think each clinic supervisor would just have to deal with it as they deemed best for their clinic. I really don't care for grandfathering anything.
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Re: Should PTs be called "Dr." - February 27, 2005 3:03:00 AM
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I guess at the moment, I'm definitely NOT going to do my "professional duty" when it comes to getting my transitional DPT. Hey, if anyone feels strongly that I should have that transitional DPT and wants me to, I'm willing - I'll accept cash and do whatever online program anyone wants.
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Re: Should PTs be called "Dr." - March 22, 2005 5:08:00 PM
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yes.
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Re: Should PTs be called "Dr." - April 22, 2005 2:56:00 PM
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Dr Simon Bacaltos
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I'm a new post-professional DPT graduate. I just began using the "Dr" after being a PT for over 10 years. I have to qualify myself as Dr. of PT and not a Dr. of Med. I've noticed, how easy it is for patients and their families to understand the concept of PT's being doctors in their own right. Going back to school for a DPT gave me the confidence and competency to make myself known as Dr. ( qualifying it as DPT not an MD).
Some here stated that a DPT is not a terminal degree, I very much disagree with that statement, for same reason that an MD or DO is an entry and terminal degree for those practitioners. There are many MD's who also have PhD's...at the same token an individual with DPT (a terminal clinical doctorate) may pursue a PhD (in whatever field of physical or social science he or she chooses).
Whether a PT would pursue an advanced clinical doctorate is beside the point. The PT profession in its evolution, has amassed a specialized body of knowledge based on scientific methods unique and distinct from other disciplines and has to have a terminal clinical degree ---> DPT or PTD.
I see also many other's with DPT's who also have advanced master's, putting their MS or MA after their DPT. I'm also doing that, sometimes but maybe I should'nt.
Thanks,
Simon Bacaltos, DPT, MS
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Re: Should PTs be called "Dr." - April 23, 2005 12:46:00 PM
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I have always thought this conversation is odd...the pursuit of being called "Dr". For years PT's (including myself when I practiced) refused to call DC's "Dr." claiming that they weren't "real" doctors...so what now? That same argument can be used against PT's right? Hell I don't even call PharmD's doctors, to me they are the pharmacist. I don't call my lawyer a "doctor" , but he has a JD. So, I guess it all depends on the amount of confusion one wishes to project. I don't know...is it all worth it...or is it "Dr." envy? Just seems so interesting to me.
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Re: Should PTs be called "Dr." - April 23, 2005 2:27:00 PM
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I think a lot of time people go after the title so much probably because they don't feel they are getting the respect they deserve and by having the title they will. The thing I don't agree with is that you should not get respect just because you have a certain title, whatever that title may be. Respect is earned. A lot of health care professional don't necessarily earn it from their peers.
Dan, PT.
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Re: Should PTs be called "Dr." - April 25, 2005 2:49:00 AM
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One of the reasons I like our Rotary Club - NO-ONE uses their titles - nametags do not have 'm, all are on first name basis (judge, mayor, locksmith, PT, chiro, MD and many more). It emphasizes the importance of the person, and reduces the "barriers" of titles.
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Re: Should PTs be called "Dr." - April 25, 2005 5:36:00 AM
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NorthernPT
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Dr. Wagner,
What is a "real" doctor. Since PhD's were the first "Doctor", does that mean MD/DO's are not "real" doctors as well?
Many PhD's do not think EdD's or DSc's are "real" doctors either.
I have a couple optometrist friends who state many opthamologists do not think they are "real" doctors either.
A couple MD's where I used to work used to joke about patients calling the old school podiatrist on staff a doctor. Obviously they didn't think he was a "real" doctor either.
Etc., etc., etc.
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Re: Should PTs be called "Dr." - April 25, 2005 7:06:00 AM
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Dr.Wagner
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What do you think I am talking about...furthermore, it wasn't just me that said that in the past and I am surprised you never said the same thing ("That DC is not a REAL Dr."). I simply find it very interesting now. Personally I don't really care...but I think you are being a bit coy or rather passive if you didn't first catch my drift.
I mean, haven't you ever seen Friends when Ross said he was a "Dr" and the running joke was that he wasn't a "real doctor".
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Re: Should PTs be called "Dr." - April 25, 2005 7:20:00 AM
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NorthernPT
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I did catch your drift by the way, but as you are someone on this form that society thinks of as a "real" doctor, I was just wondering what doctoral professions are worthy/unworthy of the title in everyday practice.
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Re: Should PTs be called "Dr." - April 25, 2005 8:18:00 AM
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As a current DPT who spent 8 years as a BSPT I am having a hard time even calling myself a Doctor much less having others adress me that way. When my patients inquire I make sure to let them know that yes I am a Doctor, but I am a Doctor of Physical Therapy, not a physician and then I discuss my educational experience. I am also the son of two exceptional Doctors of Veterinary medicine, DVM's. Believe me if I had a dollar for every time one of my childhood friends said "yeah but your parents aren't real doctors" I would be a rich man. To the dogs and cats that they saved and to the grateful owners, they were as "real doctors" as they needed to be.
Rick
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Re: Should PTs be called "Dr." - April 25, 2005 8:26:00 PM
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Dr.Wagner
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The only REAL Dr.'s are
1. Dr. J
2. Dr. Dunkenstein
3. Dr. Dre (from Yo MTV raps, not NWA)
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Re: Should PTs be called "Dr." - April 26, 2005 2:09:00 AM
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dosrinc
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4. Dr. Feelgood
5. Dr. Dr. give me the news
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Re: Should PTs be called "Dr." - April 26, 2005 4:08:00 AM
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Alex Brenner PT MPT OCS
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What about Dr. Phil?
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Re: Should PTs be called "Dr." - April 26, 2005 5:07:00 AM
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fapt
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what is Dr. Phil?
Is that called PhD?
Thanks a lot....
Lin, MS PT, Taiwan
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Re: Should PTs be called "Dr." - April 26, 2005 5:20:00 AM
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NorthernPT
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My mom really likes Dr. Zhivago
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Re: Should PTs be called "Dr." - April 26, 2005 7:14:00 AM
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Dr. Detroit
Dr. No
Dr. "Bones"
"Doc" from Back to the Future.... (love his wild look..)
Doc Halliday - now there's a guy who could fix things in an instant...
Lin , Dr. Phil is a US television personality who "counsels" people on his "show" - solves everything in 30 minutes....
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Re: Should PTs be called "Dr." - April 26, 2005 10:17:00 AM
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Re: Should PTs be called "Dr." - April 26, 2005 1:31:00 PM
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