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jma -> FSBPT to review current passing standard (April 6, 2005 5:55:00 PM)
Hello, Just happened to check out the FSBPT website and thought the info I read there would be interesting to share with others. Thoughts on this? [QUOTE] [/QUOTE][list] "Review of the Current Passing Standard (Posted on 4/1/2005) Two stakeholder groups have expressed concern regarding the current pass rate. The larger group comprises faculty members from physical therapy programs. They have indicated both individually and collectively (through the Section on Education and Academic Administrators Special Interest Group) that they believe the passing score is too high and the pass rate is too low. Employers of physical therapy clinics have also made complaints as new employees have not been able to practice as physical therapists due to failure on the licensure exam. An Open Process The Federation continually works to ensure that all aspects of the exam development process are conducted in accordance with industry standards, and the most recent practice analysis and standard setting are no exception. However, we take the concerns of the faculty of physical therapist programs very seriously. Because we take our stakeholders’ concerns seriously, we are willing to "check our work" by initiating a standards setting review. There are no guarantees that our original pass point will be changed as a result of this second study. It is possible that the second study will validate the first study’s results. It may not. Either way, the Board is committed to taking appropriate action based on the standard setting review study’s results. The Board also believes it is important for this process to be transparent to stakeholders and as such, will name a group of various stakeholders to observe the standard setting review process. Back to the Mission A key point to remember in this discussion is that the mission of the Federation and its licensing boards is public protection. Because of this mission, our overriding objective in establishing the passing score is to ensure that the public is protected from incompetent or unsafe practitioners; a secondary objective is to ensure that competent practitioners can pass the exam. These priorities have not and will not change." [/list] JMA

SJBird55 -> Re: FSBPT to review current passing standard (April 12, 2005 2:00:00 AM)
Hmmm... there is a push for direct access and autonomous practice by the APTA and educational facilities and clinic owners are intereseted in lowering of the passing score for the licensure exame. Nice.... Fabulous is all I can say...

JLS_PT_OCS -> Re: FSBPT to review current passing standard (April 12, 2005 2:49:00 AM)
If you can't pass the licensure exam, that should tell you something... If the pass rate is low at the school you attend, that should also tell you something... Why at this point would we ever consider lowering the score?? SJ had it exactly right, "fabulous"... J

jma -> Re: FSBPT to review current passing standard (April 12, 2005 5:23:00 PM)
Owners interested in lowering the passing score? Hmmm, their business idea to keep things running. Hire new grads but can't keep them if they can't get through the exam.

tucker -> Re: FSBPT to review current passing standard (April 12, 2005 6:04:00 PM)
If you are not aware, there has been significant changes in the exam over the last few years, especially this year. I teach a few courses at the PT school and have students year-round from programs around the US. Over the last 2 years, I have seen some great students fail the exam. This year has been the worst (I know at least 4 that failed all from different programs, DPT as well)...and again, these are great students both in the clinic and classroom. The exam questions that they have told me were ridiculous. I think there is a problem, either with the questions or the passing grade. I also do not like the format that they have told me about this year. The exam is in sections and once you complete a section, you cannot go back. Typically I would agree with all of you in not lowering the passing score, but something is definately wrong at this time.

jma -> Re: FSBPT to review current passing standard (April 12, 2005 6:08:00 PM)
Perhaps by doing another review of the exam itself, what many see as wrong may be justified

JLS_PT_OCS -> Re: FSBPT to review current passing standard (April 13, 2005 10:19:00 AM)
Tucker, thanks for your input...it would appear my assumption that the licensure exam was a fair discriminator may have been premature. I'd be interested to see what comes of this. J

tucker -> Re: FSBPT to review current passing standard (April 14, 2005 8:27:00 AM)
No problem...Then again, most of these therapists who fail the first time, typically pass it on the second or third try. One of our therapists who failed last month found out today she passed...so the passing score may be just right. I just wanted to point out that students who fail the exam, especially in the last 2 years, does not mean that they are poor clinicians. The exam is much more difficult than we took it.

SJBird55 -> Re: FSBPT to review current passing standard (April 14, 2005 2:47:00 PM)
A lot of the computerized exams are set up that way (in sections). If PT schools are utilizing computers for tests also, then the same kind of thing can be built into exams which would then have students taking the licensure exam prepared for that kind of format. I personally don't think there is anything wrong with that kind of format if the student is already aware of it. It just puts a different test taking strategy in place. What was the failure rate 6 years ago for those that took the exam the first time? What is the failure rate within the last year for those that took the exam the first time?

jma -> Re: FSBPT to review current passing standard (May 14, 2005 6:06:00 AM)
Hello, Students please read the Open Forum Link for the latest news on the current passing standard. The passing standard has now been changed as of May 12. 2005. Your thoughts and comments? JMA

vt2c1ms -> Re: FSBPT to review current passing standard (May 14, 2005 7:41:00 AM)
I don't understand this. Many of the schools I looked into had passing rates above 90%. That's not good enough? Look at other professions, especially optometry, where the passing rate is even lower than PT. They don't change. Seems fishy with the information I'm gathering. Is it a national standard or a state standard (I think national). I know in optometry, Kansas has one of the hardest boards to pass (top 5). You must pass national boards and state boards where you want to practice. In other words, you could pass the national boards but not state boards, and still not be able to practice. That doesn't sound good for the PT profession. Mark

jma -> Re: FSBPT to review current passing standard (May 14, 2005 8:00:00 AM)
The open forum link has the information, except for what the new passing score is. JMA

Ender -> Re: FSBPT to review current passing standard (May 14, 2005 8:29:00 AM)
Progress to a doctorate, and make the passing score lower, makes sense to me. Kind of like when they dropped the hours required to take the OCS, even though it's a different board.(for those of you who don't remember, the minimal hours of practice to take the OCS use to be 10,000, it's now 2,000. Oaks PT

jma -> Re: FSBPT to review current passing standard (May 15, 2005 3:25:00 AM)
Actually after reading the FAQ link on that site, it is not the actual score that is being changed. It will remain the same. Now, one needs to answer less questions right.It is the standard that has been lowered.

MPTSTUDENT -> Re: FSBPT to review current passing standard (May 30, 2005 6:06:00 AM)
If I remember correctly the passing score was raised 2 years ago and since that time pass rates dropped dramatically. So maybe they should reexamine their passing rate.

ianwvu -> Re: FSBPT to review current passing standard (June 15, 2005 10:42:00 PM)
From what i read in 2003 (when i took the exam), that year started a overhaul of the boards. This was due to leaks of the FSBPT's practice exam (someone posted the whole thing on a exam study forum), and sharing of actual questions from the test through these various internet portals (which i believe is a felony). The new exam for that year was not peer reviewed, and pass rates dropped like a rock. Luckily i passed on the first attempt (pats myself on the back). However, my school who had a passing rate of 100%, 100%, 100%, 97%, 97% in the past 5 years respectively, had 6 out of 30 students fail. I worked with another PT that graduated the same time, and his school had a 100% passing rate for the prior 15 years i believe, and in 2003, they had between 5-7 failures. It seems like this trend has continued. This could be from the test becoming harder, or the quality of student has dropped secondary to low numbers of PT school applicants, and less competition for acceptence. Who knows.

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