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Re: Ballistic dural stretching - March 30, 2006 10:54:00 PM
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Randy Dixon
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That looks more like what I consider a British "up yours", I always thought the Aussies just came right out and said it.
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Re: Ballistic dural stretching - March 31, 2006 2:21:00 AM
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Sebastian Asselbergs
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That, Ginger, is the most obfuscating post of you yet. Shrouding your lack of answers to the posed questions in a sudden concern for misuse is a poor way of saying - "I do not have the answers to your questions". Remember - YOU are the one with the "grand pediculator" as signature - you use body weight to mobilize....How could that be any less stupid than "stretching dura" for therapeutic purposes?
As much as I appreciate good banter and exchange of ideas, when you make claims like you do, you need to be prepared to answer the logical questions that arise from your presentation. To turn around and make poorly cloaked snide remarks about PTs of different nationalities to take the heat off yourself, is a sure sign of completely UN-Oz weakness and insecurity.
No-one has gotten any answers from you yet.....Just insults.
Methinks your head needs deflating a teensie bit...
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Re: Ballistic dural stretching - March 31, 2006 4:06:00 AM
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Shill
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So you're just taking your ball(istic stretching) and going home? Gee, thats not much fun. Well, I hope you have a nice James Squire Amber, and come back after reconsidering.
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Re: Ballistic dural stretching - March 31, 2006 9:44:00 AM
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nari
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ginger
I have to agree that, although you do not set out to win friends and influence people, your post has the inference that US PTs are a bit thick and below your (or someone else's) clinical expertise; and that is over the top. Fair enough to warn others, but not that way...
Your wallabies are way too active in the paddock; get Blue to chase them over the fence.
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Re: Ballistic dural stretching - April 3, 2006 2:04:00 PM
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ginger
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Yes Shill Sebastian Randy and Nari, I was out of line and over the top. I'll not attempt to mitigate my obvious poor judgement in this matter , I ought to have chosen my words far better and I apologise to those whom I've offended.
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Re: Ballistic dural stretching - April 3, 2006 6:19:00 PM
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nari
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ginger
One of the problems of communicating online with clinical applications is the one you came across - explaining pros and cons, methods,etc. They often come across out of original context, and may seem bizarre or inappropriate to others.
That's pretty universal, I think. We can't *see* you doing these techniques, and can only guess at their effectiveness or not. We're not *there*.
Simple Contact as taught by Barrett seems odd and mysterious online - when seen, and experienced, the whole concept changes from 'mystic' to very real and beneficial.
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Re: Ballistic dural stretching - April 4, 2006 1:50:00 AM
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Sebastian Asselbergs
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ginger - that's cool. and nari has a good point - it not always easy to "hear" nuances either (might not have heard and seen the smile on your face when you "said" what you said).
We're cool.
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Re: Ballistic dural stretching - April 4, 2006 8:09:00 AM
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Shill
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No worries mate. Theres no harm in feeling strongly about what you do. I think we should all use those little smiley faces more often,to show how we feel. :mad: Just kidding. :)
Steve
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Re: Ballistic dural stretching - April 4, 2006 11:54:00 PM
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ginger
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I'll endeavour to add what I can as further explanation on ballistic stretches over the coming few days , I've been suffering a bout of the lurgy and flat out like a lizard drinking.
Cheers
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Re: Ballistic dural stretching - April 5, 2006 12:53:00 AM
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nari
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ginger
Maybe you and I can get our North American colleagues talking the Oz language! ;)
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Re: Ballistic dural stretching - April 5, 2006 4:33:00 PM
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ginger
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Jeez cobber strewth beuty no worries, av a go yer mug , on ya she's a corker . A tribute here to those erstwhile colleagues of the ocker persuasion.
Most of you will be familiar with the dural test known as the slump test.
Versions of the slump can be used with good indications for tightness in lumbopelvic and brachial dura. The reproduction of complained of symptoms is not necessary. In many cases sufficient indication for the value of dural stretches will be shown by altered sensations with the slump along the course of the same segmental level as the complained of pain etc.
With skilled handling the effect of a ballistic stretch is instantaneous and safe, giving a strong indication of a temporal relationship between presumed dural tightness and complained of symptom. ( if not proof, a more difficult proposition ).
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Re: Ballistic dural stretching - April 7, 2006 3:57:00 AM
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truthseeker
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Not arguing, but Wasserman's premise is flawed. Which branch of the femoral nerve comes from the shin? (hint, there isn't one to my knowledge)
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