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Re: Diagnosis and Palpation in Manual Tx - October 26, 2005 12:19:00 PM
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nari
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I think the 'why' and the 'how' are both important, but it is more useful, I think, to look harder at the 'why'. Someone might get injured - the 'how' -but we could be more interested in the 'why'; 'why' the response to a particular insult, be it emotional or physical in nature.
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Re: Diagnosis and Palpation in Manual Tx - October 26, 2005 2:26:00 PM
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Jon Newman
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Steve I agree that both are important. I find I'm most confident when the observations our profession makes fits well with other known explanations of nature. I've tried to cover why I think understanding why is necessary, or at least under which circumstances it is.
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Re: Diagnosis and Palpation in Manual Tx - October 26, 2005 3:14:00 PM
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JLS_PT_OCS
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I agree with you, Jon. It would be good to understand the why. Right now, it's not possible for many things.
Using the rule doesn't mean we've become technicians (though I see your point in that some may choose to become so), and the whole idea of continuing research is to uncover the next generation of explanations.
You've got good questions, I'm just not sure anyone has any good answers which meet the demand of a deep model. But I think the same group of us who use the rules with confidence also quietly wonder, and are always on the lookout for the next step. I happen to think that use of the rules gives your creativity a boost, rather than stifling it, because the questions Jon poses just start coming naturally. To me, anyway. I know intellectually the rule works, but the toddler in me keeps asking "why? why? why?". That's what keeps me looking on PubMed and Evidence In Motion so much.
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Re: Diagnosis and Palpation in Manual Tx - March 21, 2006 3:49:00 AM
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JLS_PT_OCS
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Here's some signs that the leaders in the PT field are concerned about the jargon and application of manipulation in practice.
Here's a link to Evidence in Motion:
http://blog.evidenceinmotion.com/evidence/2006/03/jargon_and_manu.html
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Re: Diagnosis and Palpation in Manual Tx - March 21, 2006 10:52:00 PM
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Randy Dixon
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343 posts, aaaaarrghh, the "Should DPT's be called Drs" will never reach this.
"Leaders in the PT field"? Some guy named Jason posted the most responses there. I tell you, some guys get promoted to Major and their heads just swell up like Oprah at an all-you-can-eat BBQ.
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Re: Diagnosis and Palpation in Manual Tx - March 22, 2006 2:57:00 AM
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FLAOrthoPT
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yea it would be nice to have a locking out function on a topic after the dead horse has been beaten so bad it no longer echoes and now sounds like a xylophone when the blunt objects hit its abdomen
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Re: Diagnosis and Palpation in Manual Tx - March 22, 2006 8:57:00 AM
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JLS_PT_OCS
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Randy-
I was actually referring to the EIM people, who produce great, field-leading research. I'm just a schmuck with opinions, waiting until my number comes up (should be this fall) to get promoted.
Ben-
It may feel beaten to death, but it is still widely practiced, taught, and parroted. That is reason enough to put this stuff out there...
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