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What should I do? - August 23, 2006 11:00:00 AM
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Confusedstudent
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Hello I am an undergrad student here in Canada going into my 4th year. I have to make an important decision in my life and was hoping some of you could give me some advice. I have been trying to figure out if I should go into physio or chiro both professions seem like good choices but I just can't decide. Can some of the PTs and DCs on this forum give me some advice and give me some pros and cons for each of the two professions?
Thanks
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Re: What should I do? - August 23, 2006 11:25:00 AM
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dfjpt
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If you have to ask, just toss a coin.
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Re: What should I do? - August 23, 2006 11:43:00 AM
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Lehmkuhler
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Are you a risk taker by nature? Business oriented? Enjoy working 50-70 hours/week?
Want to orient your life around your job, or vice versa?
Private practice (owning) is an option in PT, it's pretty much a requirement as a DC.
Shadow both.
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Re: What should I do? - August 23, 2006 11:49:00 AM
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Lehmkuhler:
I think that is the best advice, however, I must say I like dfjpt's sarcasm. That was sarcasm, wasn't it? I am in provate practice and you do/will work that many hours - at least I am as I am into my 4th month. But, I've never been happier in my 9 years of practice. I had a busy clinical and admin job at a hospital outpatient facility for the last 5 years. I'd rather work long hours for myself than for somebody else. Wait a minute, this is not a private practice discussion. SHADOW!!!!!
Good luck,
Eric
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Re: What should I do? - August 23, 2006 11:50:00 AM
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Confusedstudent
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dfjpt,
Thanks for the great advice....anyone else have any real advice?
Leh,
Well I am intersted in owning a clinic sometime down the road and so that is just the thing because both PT and DCs have the same direct access here in Canada so that leaves me with the same question.
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Re: What should I do? - August 23, 2006 12:24:00 PM
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Lehmkuhler
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Does being called a "quack" bother you? Honest question... As a DC, people will assume you're an idiot until proven otherwise. I think you get the benefit of the doubt as a PT.
I'll think of more...
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Re: What should I do? - August 23, 2006 12:28:00 PM
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Confusedstudent
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A "quak" hmm... well i guess everyone wants to be respected so I guess it cant be the best thing. I mean I would want to be respected as health care professional. How common is this "quak" name calling?
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Re: What should I do? - August 23, 2006 12:39:00 PM
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you really need to see both fields in action to know. just by reading what they do or asking people isn't enough. you've got to go volunteer or shadow both and make your decision. there are generally differences in ways of treating things, at least here in the US, i don't know in Candada. yes there is a lot of negativity towards chiros in the medical field in the US, but many people LOVE them and are very into the "alternative" doctor business. PTs can be seen as respected, but also can be seen as just your "massage person". depends where you live, work, and how you present yourself. the pros and cons are hard, because i think it differs that you're in canada. i think the most important thing is to see the fields "in action" and see what feels right.
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Re: What should I do? - August 23, 2006 12:57:00 PM
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Confusedstudent
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Yes I have heard that there are differences in Canada and the states. I do plan to shadow both professions very shortly. So what about financially. I guess you cant compare PTs to DCs in in-pateint hospital setting casue DCs dont work there but what about owning a private clinic. In general are DCs more successful who own their own clinic more successful compared to PTs who own thier own clinics? I guess this might be a tough question to answer? Is this a stupid question?
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Re: What should I do? - August 23, 2006 1:05:00 PM
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It's not a stupid question, just one that's impossible to answer.
There are DC's making 7 figures, there are also DC's who have gone bankrupt and are selling shoes for a living...
If you're concerned about security, go PT. There's a lot more options.
I would imagine you can make more with Chiro, but you can make less and there's a lot less security... Also, if you don't like private practice, your options are very limited (read: almost none).
How much risk are you comfortable with?
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Re: What should I do? - August 23, 2006 1:11:00 PM
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Confusedstudent
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Wow some DCs make 7 figures? Would this be impossible for PTs in private practise?
Well I am ok with risk but just how much risk is there ... what are the odds of making 7-6 figures, what are the odds of going bankrupt and what are the odds of making a decent living?
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Re: What should I do? - August 23, 2006 1:17:00 PM
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Lehmkuhler
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Don't take that wrong, probably less than 1% see that kind of money.
As far as your other questions, I don't know. Too many variables...
If you're going to start a chiro clinic from scratch in a town where you dont' already know everybody, expect a very difficult couple of years, at least.
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Re: What should I do? - August 23, 2006 1:21:00 PM
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Confusedstudent
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I see ..it seems like from what you said that DCs make more money in private practise but PTs have more security.
Thanks for the advice Leh.. feel free to add anything else if you can or anyone else too.
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Re: What should I do? - August 23, 2006 1:30:00 PM
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NO NO NO
DC's may have POTENTIAL to make more money. Read closely, potential. But you have NO safety net.
On average, I don't know what real numbers would be for each profession.
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Re: What should I do? - August 23, 2006 2:34:00 PM
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Ahh grasshopper, want to be success?, first decide what success means. Is success about dollars, or is it a lot more difficult to find than money?, Many think dollars are the best to strive for, in which case chiropractic your best bet. manipulate your way to an eternity of crackety crunch while the cash register runs hot.
If however you are the kind who has a firm belief in the ideals of best outcomes, of direct attention to problems where solutions are long term, where you will be glad to tell anyone you meet , I am a physiotherapist. then your choice is clear. ( after you learn to walk on ahhhh rice paper)
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Re: What should I do? - August 23, 2006 2:44:00 PM
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Confusedstudent
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Ok so chiropractors in private practise have the potential to make more money than PTs in private practise but PTs have more security and have better outcomes and thier solutions are long term?? I think I more confused now..lol Somehow that doesnt make sense...? IF you have better outcomes wouldnt it be easier to make more money?
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Re: What should I do? - August 23, 2006 2:56:00 PM
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I smell a troll
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Re: What should I do? - August 23, 2006 3:03:00 PM
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Better outcomes because PT's often "fix" the underlying cause and do not see patients 1-3 times a week for their entire life because L3 is slightly rotated left on x-ray. I have a very good friend who, when he was going to Chiro school, I asked "If what you do helps people, why do you have to keep seing them for months, if not years?" Answer: "Because they need to be adjusted." He also espoused to be able to affect diabetes by manipulating the upper cervical spine. And here we are in traditional medicine ignoring such a simple fix for a chronic and often deadly epidemic. Forgive my sarcasm. Simply put, More visits per patient = More money in pocket. Less visits because of more effective treatment = better outcomes. So, if you want to be a wealthy PT, have better outcomes and see more patients.
Still, you need to shadow both. You need to look at philosophy of care. There is a lot to consider. Or be a PTDC.
Best of luck,
Eric
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Re: What should I do? - August 23, 2006 3:26:00 PM
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Confusedstudent
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Whats a troll...?
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Re: What should I do? - August 23, 2006 3:37:00 PM
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Apples to oranges. If you are confused over choosing PT or Chiro, you have a lot of RESEARCH to do.
I recommend having a little look at where you would be getting your education...
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