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The IMT ``Bone Bruise Technique'' - August 29, 2005 11:59:00 AM
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Meecrob
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I was wondering if anyone knows or has any experience with the Bone Bruise Technique as developed by Dr. Sharon Weiselfish-Giammatteo.
I've tried searching various internet sites (starting with Google) and all I keep finding is the same text with no description of what it actually entails.
A typical definition for it is here: https://www.neseminars.com/nes3/products.nsf/Subjects/DCRMSKEL110?OpenDocument&Click=
However, I'd like to know how this procedure works, how much time it takes, and whether it can be self-administered.
Kind regards,
Meecrob.
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Re: The IMT ``Bone Bruise Technique'' - August 29, 2005 1:10:00 PM
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FLAOrthoPT
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i personally lover her MET and beyond series for spinal related conditions...but some of her other stuff is WWWWAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYY out there...
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Re: The IMT ``Bone Bruise Technique'' - August 29, 2005 2:47:00 PM
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jma
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I have not personally heard of this but it sounds very interesting. The name sounds familiar. Does she have a book out?
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Re: The IMT ``Bone Bruise Technique'' - August 29, 2005 2:58:00 PM
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srcase
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I've bruised a bone just thinking about it (brain sloshing up against the side of my skull!)
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Re: The IMT ``Bone Bruise Technique'' - August 29, 2005 3:00:00 PM
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Jon Newman
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Is there another website or is this one of those buy it before you try it techniques?
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Re: The IMT ``Bone Bruise Technique'' - August 29, 2005 5:25:00 PM
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FLAOrthoPT
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she has many books out, anything from MET and beyond to more of the cranio sacral and visceral mobs and lymph drainage type stuff, i think this sounds a bit hokey, then again what is a hokey? and no for those VA tech alumni it is NOT a castrated turkey.
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Re: The IMT ``Bone Bruise Technique'' - August 29, 2005 7:33:00 PM
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Lukey
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"Evidence Based Medicine: proof that treatment of bone bruises can change pain and disability."
That will be a fascinating part of the course.
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Re: The IMT ``Bone Bruise Technique'' - August 29, 2005 8:07:00 PM
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Randy Dixon
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I don't know what it is, but I get butt bruises from sitting at the computer all day.
I wonder if she could fix em up.
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Re: The IMT ``Bone Bruise Technique'' - August 29, 2005 8:42:00 PM
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goodlooks58
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Is bone bruising same as body slamming, midget throwing, football, rugby, no-pian-no-gain philosophy etc...After a good game of Rugby it sure feels good!
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Re: The IMT ``Bone Bruise Technique'' - August 30, 2005 12:49:00 AM
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Barrett
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What are the chances that these people have just invented a problem that doesn't actually exist? Might they have done this before and gotten away with it because nobody taking the class is impolite enough to object?
Why do they so carefully hide any additional information?
If it turns out that this is just a money-making scheme I'll be shocked...shocked!
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Re: The IMT ``Bone Bruise Technique'' - August 30, 2005 2:36:00 AM
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Shill
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Barrett,
Are you suggesting bony bruises may not exist?
Ever foul a fastball off your medial malleolus? Bonk your tibia on a canoe gunnel? (sp?)
Im not promoting the technique for treatment, just that is seems rather plausible to me that in some cases, the condition could exist.
Thoughts?
Steve
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Re: The IMT ``Bone Bruise Technique'' - August 30, 2005 3:13:00 AM
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Barrett
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I'm not suggesting that the condition cannot exist, but would such a thing endure? Is there any reason to think these account for chronic pain or that manual handling would change them? What testing would reveal them? They allude to "literature," so why don't they supply a link?
They call this an "ever-growing problem." Are they suggesting an epidemic?
Their further claims of successful care aren't documented anywhere that I can find. Why should we believe any of this? Might it be that they sense the desperation many PTs feel when faced with chronic pain for which no one has found an obvious cause?
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Re: The IMT ``Bone Bruise Technique'' - August 30, 2005 3:20:00 AM
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chiroortho
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[QUOTE]Are they suggesting an epidemic?[/QUOTE]Funny. 'Bone bruises overtaking inner-city Chicago! Hurry for your bone-bruise immunizations!'
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Re: The IMT ``Bone Bruise Technique'' - August 30, 2005 3:51:00 AM
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Yogi
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Wow? Barrett, don't be offended. I would think this would take as much or more convincing than Simple Contact. MRI is mentioned as evidence for, but I don't think the MRI will be in the class. This one is a mystery until some attendee reports and describes, like folks who have taken your class have started doing, to enlighten the rest of us a bit more. Which I, for one, have really appreciated.
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Re: The IMT ``Bone Bruise Technique'' - August 30, 2005 5:52:00 AM
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SJBird55
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My horse did some damage to my radial head area last year... major, major bruising for weeks. Personally,I don't think I'd sign up for some "bone bruising." Hmmm, I didn't have any chronic pain or any residual problems from the incident but I did buy a quick release tie... and my husband got me another one for my anniversary present. LOL My husband plays hockey twice a week and he's had more bruises that one can imagine (goalie) because the puck can get up between his pads sometimes - he doesn't have chronic pain or residual problems.
I know bone bruises hurt, but it's just a deep ache that takes a bit of time to go away, not something that inhibits life by any means.
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Re: The IMT ``Bone Bruise Technique'' - August 30, 2005 6:06:00 AM
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Barrett
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Yogi,
Offended? You say, "This one is a mystery until some attendee reports and describes, like folks who have taken your class have started doing, to enlighten the rest of us a bit more." You cannot equate these courses for even a moment, and if you don't know why, consider this:
Simple Contact is a treatment approach specifically designed to address the problems inherent to an abnormal neural dynamic, a condition for which there is a mountain of evidence; a condition that has been discussed intricately for years on the Internet by experts from several disciplines.
All of this information is referenced and offered free of charge to anyone inclined to take a few moments to find that out. Ask me about it and you'll get more information than you actually want. The method itself has been described in a variety of ways by any number of therapists and, again, these explanations are freely available. Saying that my work is a mystery only solved after attendees return and explain it is simply untrue. Of course, the vast majority of people attending my workshops have done nothing to prepare though they are encouraged to do so in the brochure. It is not uncommon for them to not know my name until I've said it a few times-and I'm not making that up. This (to me) phenomenal ignorance has nothing to do with what Simple Contact is about or how I've chosen to present it to my peers.
On the other hand, I'd like someone here to find out all they can about this "Bone Bruise Technique" without speaking to a former student and shelling out any money. Maybe they can talk to the originator of the method, maybe all the "literature" will be freely offered. Maybe the instructor will take a couple minutes to post her ideas here where we can discuss them. If not-why not?
I have always done all of this, and I will not be lumped in with those who won't. Not without objection.
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Re: The IMT ``Bone Bruise Technique'' - August 30, 2005 6:50:00 AM
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chiroortho
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I see patients all the time with MRI evidence of 'bone contusions' on their knee mri. All that tells me is that they've taken a lick on the dashboard. Nothing more. A month later they forgot their knee even hurt.
Yeah it hurts like the dickens in the beginning, enough for the family doc that they see before me to order the MR.
90% of the time it's a normal study, the other 10% of the time there's a bone contusion and/or some other path.
IMHO building a technique around bone bruises is kind of questionable.
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Re: The IMT ``Bone Bruise Technique'' - August 30, 2005 7:26:00 AM
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Sebastian Asselbergs
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But Greg: "The technique will lead to decreased pain, increased strength and stability, decreased joint swelling, improved gait, decreased recurrent ankle sprains, and much more."
So, you did not know that bone bruises could lead to instability, reduced strength, poor gait, recurrent ankle sprains, joint swelling and "much more"? You are missing stuff, man! :D
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Re: The IMT ``Bone Bruise Technique'' - August 30, 2005 8:00:00 AM
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chiroortho
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No Sebastian I did not know that bone bruises could lead to instability, etc.
Apparently I'm missing a lot. Such is life in the chiropractic lane.
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Re: The IMT ``Bone Bruise Technique'' - August 30, 2005 8:06:00 AM
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Meecrob
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Thank you for commenting and participating in this thread.
The reason I am researching this is because I suffered a compression injury on my left heel which has resulted in a bone bruise.
It has been 24 days since the injury and I can now stand and walk on a limited basis. If I do so for more than an hour, though, I start to feel pain radiating upward from my injured heel towards the outer side of my foot.
When this happens, I immediately stop all activity and the pain goes away within an hour.
I'm hoping chiroortho is correct and that I'll be back to normal in another week. But you know how pain is... when you have it, you can't remember what it's like to be pain free; and when you're pain free, you can't remember what pain feels like.
The so-called Bone Bruise Technique seemed like a magical cure, as described in the article http://www.centerimt.com/e-journal/articles/ej0000.html
In it, they claim that after months of pain, the patient was given the BBT and they were magically cured.
I guess I'll just stick to my stretching excercises and wait until it feels better. If anyone has any thoughts or insights on how to speed up the healing process, I would be interested in reading them.
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