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Strange practices for a PT? - March 20, 2004 6:09:00 PM   
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Our office was recently solicited by a PT who practices in what I considered to by a strange fashion.

Apparently this therapist performs "colon hydrotherapy" (colonics) and Maya massage (I think for constipation). Is this as unusual as I thought it to be? I must say, I was a little taken a back, this was something I would expect more from my own profession....

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Re: Strange practices for a PT? - March 21, 2004 3:31:00 AM   
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Colon hydrotherapy is nonsense unless 1. you are constipated 2. you have several foreign bodies placed in your colon and you want them out 3. you are going to have a colonoscopy


Yet another reason for recertification examinations nationwide.

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Re: Strange practices for a PT? - March 21, 2004 4:49:00 AM   
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Fortunately what some PT does doesn't define the profession. PTs can do lots of things, such as play tennis. Does that make playing tennis physical therapy? Of course not.

Unfortunately some PTs (and lots of DCs) use unscientific methods and promote weird ideas. If we are to keep our profession credible, we mustn't miss a chance to publicly distance ourselves from quackish practices used by colleagues.

Likewise the profession's top should make it their policy to do this as well. If this doesn't happen, PTs who like to dabble with so-Called Alternative Medicine (sCAM *) will succeed in getting their undocumented pet idea and method offically accepted. This would be counterproductive to all attempts to evidence-base our practice, and the credibility of our profession would suffer. In this game, credibility is everything!

BTW, another topic:

If you haven't signed up yet, you ought to join Chirotalk: [URL=http://chirotalk.proboards3.com/index.cgi]http://chirotalk.proboards3.com/index.cgi[/URL]


* sCAM [URL=http://www.geocities.com/healthbase/sCAM.html]http://www.geocities.com/healthbase/sCAM.html[/URL]

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Paul Lee, PT
ChiroLinks (The Quack-Files)
http://chirolinks.quackfiles.com

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Re: Strange practices for a PT? - March 21, 2004 7:57:00 AM   
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Paul,

"Fortunately what some PT does doesn't define the profession. PTs can do lots of things, such as play tennis. Does that make playing tennis physical therapy? Of course not."

I know what you mean...

It looks like you have done quite a bit of homework on my profession, what was it that prompted this study?

On a side note, I have been looking into bringing in a well known biomehanical reseracher to lecture in my area. While doing some research on the subject, I found out that PT's in my state have no continuing education requirements, is this typical?

Thanks,

Jeff

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Re: Strange practices for a PT? - March 21, 2004 10:14:00 AM   
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by UTDC:
Paul,

It looks like you have done quite a bit of homework on my profession, what was it that prompted this study?
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The seeds of doubt about chiropracTIC (not the same as chiropracTOR.....;-) began to grow as a young teenager. Later, while working for some MDs doing literature searches, I got a practical education in the scientific method, how to evaluate scientific literature for quality, signs of quackery, etc. In short, I learned a bit about critical thinking, and to be skeptical of claims that sounded too good to be true.

This put me in a better position to evaluate chiropractic and other systems of health care. Later I became a PA, but never used it, since I moved to Denmark with my Danish wife immediately after finishing my education. It was here that we both became PTs. This enabled me to understand chiropractic even better.

I should make it clear that chiropractic was rarely mentioned during my education. Most Danish MDs and PTs are ignorant of any debate, and think that chiros are back specialists. My PT education had no influence on the development of my skepticism, in the sense that anti-chiropractic views were voiced. That wasn't the case.

I learned about it by reading chiropractic books, articles, patient education brochures, advertising, and by speaking to chiropractic patients. By the time I got on the internet, I had some pretty well-formulated ideas and quite a bit of knowledge. What I learned from chiropractic websites and discussion groups didn't improve my opinion of chiropractic.

I discovered Chirobase, Quackwatch, and the Healthfraud Discussion List almost immediately.

I proceeded to print out a whole 3-ring binder of articles from Chirobase and read, marked, and compared them intensely. It was a deja vu experience. I felt that now I had met someone else who shared quite precisely my views. Some of the articles and viewpoints could just as well have been written by myself, that's how closely our viewpoints were, without my ever even having heard of Barrett, Homola, or any of the others. I felt like I had come home.

I then proceeded to join the HF list, and am currently assistant moderator.

Chiropractic is naturally one of the many subjects often discussed on the list, and I developed my skills in writing my thoughts about this subject there, including rediscovering my mother tongue. I hadn't written English to any great degree for about 16 years, and had rarely spoken with any chiroskeptics before this.

My skeptical views were developed in my own head, so it surprised me greatly to meet others who shared the same views. We had, after all, been observing the same phenomena.

You can learn more about me here:
[URL=http://chirotalk.proboards3.com/index.cgi?board=welcome&action=display&num=1079794439]http://chirotalk.proboards3.com/index.cgi?board=welcome&action=display&num=1079794439[/URL]
or [URL=http://tinyurl.com/2h6w5]http://tinyurl.com/2h6w5[/URL]

If you follow the links on that page, you'll discover that I don't share the radical views of some chiroskeptics. That's why I distinguish between chiropracTIC and chiropracTORs.


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On a side note, I have been looking into bringing in a well known biomehanical reseracher to lecture in my area. While doing some research on the subject, I found out that PT's in my state have no continuing education requirements, is this typical?
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I wish I could answer you, but I am educated in Denmark, and am not that knowledgeable about the PT scene in the States. I happen to know more about chiropractic.....;-) That's why a number of DCs, MDs, and PhDs have asked me to write a skeptical book about chiropractic.


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Paul Lee, PT
[URL=http://chirolinks.quackfiles.com]ChiroLinks[/URL]

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