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PT and ATC qualified - September 15, 2004 6:26:00 PM
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catherine
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Does anyone know about the types of job opportunities available for someone who is both PT and ATC certified? I am considering becoming an athletic trainer and then a physical therapist. I am not really interested in clinical work. I would rather work with athletes and sports teams. If you have any advice on the topic I would love to hear it. What are the advantages of becoming both? Or should I just choose one?
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Re: PT and ATC qualified - September 15, 2004 10:23:00 PM
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Alex Brenner PT MPT OCS
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Catherine, I have heard that the University of Virginia only hires PTs who also have their ATC degree to work with thier teams. I am not sure if this is a trend among college athletics. I think finding a job working at the professional level with athletes would be difficult. They are very competitive jobs and it comes down to "who you know" not "what you know" when landing these type jobs. You could probably find a job working at the collegic level but again these jobs are pretty tough to come by. There is a gentleman who goes by "FlaOrthoPT" on this forum who knows more about it. Good luck.
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Re: PT and ATC qualified - September 16, 2004 6:16:00 AM
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Dr.Wagner
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Becoming an ATC (undergrad) prior to getting a masters in PT is a fantastic idea. Not only will you gain skills to aid you in your career asa PT, you will gain skills for sports medicine that PT's do not possess! You will be a commodity in outpatient ortho clinics and will have a "leg up" on other applicants for jobs.
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Re: PT and ATC qualified - September 16, 2004 1:55:00 PM
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FLAOrthoPT
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I actually almost 100% agree with Doc!! except for skills "for sports medicine that (A LOT...but not all) PT's do not possess. I think anyone who KNOWs they want to do PT, should get an ATC while in undergrad...wow, let's go see if hell froze over
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Re: PT and ATC qualified - September 16, 2004 7:20:00 PM
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eugene
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can some one tell me what an atc is and does. thanx
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Re: PT and ATC qualified - September 16, 2004 8:01:00 PM
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FLAOrthoPT
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wow, go to the nata website
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Re: PT and ATC qualified - September 16, 2004 11:44:00 PM
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Alex Brenner PT MPT OCS
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Eugene, An ATC stands for Athletic Trainer Certified. They work on the sidelines with sports teams and along side physicians to provide "on the field" assessment and management of sports related injuries. They also help with preparing team members for competition, i.e bracing, taping, modifiying equipment. They have also been known to rehab sports related injuries although I feel this is where Ortho/Sport Physical therapists are far superior. Therefore, with the combination of both degrees you have the potential to be a more well rounded practioner and have more to offer sports teams or rehab clinics.
Just my thoughts.
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Re: PT and ATC qualified - September 17, 2004 6:30:00 AM
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FLAOrthoPT
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i second that
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Re: PT and ATC qualified - September 18, 2004 4:37:00 AM
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ptace
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Catherine,
The current trend in hiring for professional sports teams it to hire an ATC/PA, the same is true for collegiate teams. Hiring a physician assistant helps keep down costs and allows for quicker access for x-rays or other diagnostic tools.
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Re: PT and ATC qualified - September 19, 2004 7:06:00 PM
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eugene
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yeah but getting such a job is extremely hard. i think the only way to get a position like that would have to be graduating from a top of the line college or university. i am currently a student at the college of staen island trying to get my bs/ms in physical therapy. right now im taking my pre reqs but dont know if i wanna stay there. im considering on transfering to NYIT. if someone knows what schools are the top of the line in NY please let me know. thanx
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Re: PT and ATC qualified - September 21, 2004 7:55:00 AM
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catherine
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ArmyPT, What is military PT like?
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Re: PT and ATC qualified - September 21, 2004 7:56:00 AM
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catherine
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What are all the jobs available to PT's outside of the clinic?
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Re: PT and ATC qualified - September 21, 2004 9:48:00 AM
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FLAOrthoPT
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-corporate wellness -ergonomics assessments/consulting -community health and wellness programs -school based (pediatrics) -home health -skilled nursing -skilled rehab -wound care -burn center -Emergency Departments -Wellness centers -Hospital inpatient -Aquatherapy -Management in many different health care systems -Case management -Sales rep for PT equipment/medical equip -Work for insurance company doing utilization review/audit, etc And any other entrepreneurial ideas you can think of:golf programs, etc
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Re: PT and ATC qualified - September 23, 2004 8:16:00 PM
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catherine
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RE: ATC then PT
Here is my dilemma: I am a senior right now, about to graduate with a kinesiology option in exercise science but of course I decide NOW I want to do ATC. I would have to delay graduation for two more years in order to go through the ATC program. Is it still worth it to do ATC considering the extra time it will take?
ALSO I have heard of a specialization in sports PT. Can someone tell me more about that? What are the requirements, job description, etc.
THANKS in advance!
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Re: PT and ATC qualified - September 24, 2004 9:53:00 AM
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jma
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Hello Eugene, I graduated from NYIT and their program was great in my eyes. Now that they are a doctorate program, their program is even stronger.
JMA
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Re: PT and ATC qualified - September 24, 2004 11:18:00 PM
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Alex Brenner PT MPT OCS
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Catherine, If you send me a home email address, I could tell you more about military PT. Good luck, Army
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Re: PT and ATC qualified - September 25, 2004 8:42:00 PM
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eugene
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hello jma:
thank you for the reply. i am really considering transfering there but some one told me the school is not that great, but i dont listen to what people say.i do wanna go there because the program that they currently have sounds great bs/dpt i love the way that sounds, but i live in brooklyn and dont know if ill be able to commute there every day or i should dorm there. i would also like to ask u how your experience wasthere and also how are the teachers and how well they train you for future work including the future board test. please let me know what u think i should do, because i am extremely confused with what dicision to make. if u wanna email me its xxmickeycr69xx@aol.comn thank you
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Re: PT and ATC qualified - September 26, 2004 3:34:00 AM
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jma
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Hello, My experience from NYIT was great. Yes,I too commuted from Brooklyn everyday by car. From where? Midwood. Traveling by the BQE and the LI expressway was a drag at first. Eventually, I learned to go via the Belt Parkway and the Grand Central Parkway. Of course, the trick was to leave early and come home late to avoid the morning and evening rush hour. Dorms, even though I never dormed, is at a different NYIT campus, even farther away in LI but does have shuttle buses to bring you to the Old Westbury Campus, which has no dorms.
Everything that I learned there was applicable to what I am doing now. Although I graduated with a Masters' degree, the DPT, which is now the graduating degree, is the best thing they have done in a short period of time. One of the hallmarks of the program now, is that in order to graduate from the program, you have to take a comprehensive exam. This exam is similar to taking the boards and in fact prepares you for it. Now, I am not sure if they are making the questions just as hard as the current exam, since the change in format starting in 2002. Nevertheless, it is a good review and once you graduate, you are more than ready to take the exam because everything has been reviewed.
I know all of the faculty, with the exception of a few new professors, who have joined the team, since the DPT has been established. The program was hard and tough from the beginning to the end. No easy classes and plenty of projects to do. You can get that from anyone who has been in a PT program in NY. Of course, you are not limited to go to NYIT. Stonybrook (is in LI but has a Manhattan campus as well), LI University, NYU, Downstate (which is in Brooklyn) have PT programs as well.
Overall I liked it there and perhaps one day I will go back to get my transitional DPT if they get the program started there. Hope this info helped.
JMA
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Re: PT and ATC qualified - September 27, 2004 2:50:00 PM
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eugene
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hi jma: im sorry for bothering you again. i also live in middwood if you can call me that would be nice, because there are so many questions i would like to ask u. if you can email me ill give you my telephone #. thank you very much eugene
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Re: PT and ATC qualified - September 27, 2004 2:52:00 PM
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eugene
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oops jma i forgot to give my email address its xxmickeycr69xx@aol.com. please email me if u dont mind me asking you some questions. THANKS.
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