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On average, how much PRN work have you done in the last 6 months?

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On average, how much PRN work have you done in the last 6 months?


Full Time PRN
  5% (1)
More than 40 hours per MONTH
  5% (1)
31 - 40 hours per MONTH
  0% (0)
21 - 30 hours per MONTH
  5% (1)
11 - 20 hours per MONTH
  5% (1)
1 - 10 hours per MONTH
  20% (4)
None
  60% (12)


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On average, how much PRN work have you done in the last... - August 6, 2007 9:33:21 PM   
David Adamczyk

 

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RE: On average, how much PRN work have you done in the ... - August 7, 2007 9:37:54 AM   
TLB

 

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Status: offline 		David,

No prn just independent contract work here.  Why anyone would agree to a prn position is beyond me, your still an employee without any benefits and you can't take advantage of the tax laws.  To me this is the mentality we as a profession are hopefully trying to move away from.  Maybe someone can explain the advantages of a prn position to me and shed some light.

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RE: On average, how much PRN work have you done in the ... - August 7, 2007 4:54:15 PM   
FLAOrthoPT

 

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Status: offline 		incorporate yourself, get your own health insurance (deductable through your corp) and walk home at the end of the year working less, making more, and keeping more money in your pocket and away from uncle sam and not ever feel like you HAVE to work weekends or holidays or stupid meetings etc...

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RE: On average, how much PRN work have you done in the ... - August 8, 2007 7:17:31 PM   
David Adamczyk

 

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Status: offline 		OK people.  168 hits and only 11 responses?  I need 100 responses before letting this one drop!

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RE: On average, how much PRN work have you done in the ... - August 8, 2007 7:35:47 PM   
aph401

 

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Status: offline 		FLAorthoPT, can you expound?

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RE: On average, how much PRN work have you done in the ... - August 9, 2007 8:43:16 AM   
Alex Brenner PT MPT OCS

 

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I work about 10 prn hours a month to help out a rural PT setting here in KY that is short PT's. I have full health care coverage, retirement, salary through my current employer so the PT clinic is able to pay me a very fair prn wage. It seems to be a win-win situation. I get to serve a rural community that needs help and earn some extra beer money. Well, I don't spend it all on beer, Kentucky is famous for bourbon too.

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RE: On average, how much PRN work have you done in the ... - August 9, 2007 9:25:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think per diem works serves the patients more than anything.  Just think of the clinic, hospital, or SNF that cannot find either a full time PT, or one for the weekends?  The patient suffers by  not getting therapy, so the per diem person fills that role.  They occur everywhere in life, even professional sports.

If I was to win the lottery and a million bucks, I'd retire, but still enjoy being a PT.  I would be very happy to grab PRN work here and there to keep myself busy and mentally sharp.

Plus Todd, there are always those that simply need more money.  Our profession has not seen a very large gain in salaries, and PT's in Pittsburgh are starting in the mid to upper 40's for new grads, just 5K more than when I began practicing 16 years ago!!!  Therefore, with more health insurance costs being dumped on us, mandatory continuing ed that is not covered by corporate, PT's are taking PRN work to gather vacation money, 529k money, etc

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RE: On average, how much PRN work have you done in the ... - August 9, 2007 9:44:29 AM   
FLAOrthoPT

 

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Status: offline 		aph: you get paid way more an hour and are able to run yourself as a 1099 contractor, get incorporated, and all your expenses begin to run through your one person business creating a lot more deductions than if you are meployed somewhere, you can eventually build enough credit in your business to buy a car in your business if you need it for work for example and right the whole thing against your business expenses, and at the end of the year you take home a lot more money and are a lot more flexible...talk to a cpa...if you can get a lot of per diem work, and you don't mind it, it will definitely = more money if you do it right, but there are big drawbacks of course too....lack of stability, etc....but if yo are in an area short of PTs (south fla) you can do way better financially and flexibility wise as a per diem.

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RE: On average, how much PRN work have you done in the ... - August 9, 2007 1:26:50 PM   
TLB

 

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Status: offline 		Alex and Duffy,

My question was why prn vs. contract, it's basically the same thing only difference is your working for yourself instead of for someone else.  I know the hospitals or what not would rather you prn so they can control the rate at which your paid instead of leaving it for the market to bear.  Alex, I think its great that you are able to help those people in the rural communities out just wondering why you wouldn't want take advantage 1099 tax situation.  It might increase your beer fund a little.

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RE: On average, how much PRN work have you done in the ... - August 9, 2007 4:42:23 PM   
matotoms

 

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Status: offline 		what PRN rates are you guys seeing in the various settings?

how about home health per visit rates?

thanks

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RE: On average, how much PRN work have you done in the ... - August 9, 2007 6:45:30 PM   
FLAOrthoPT

 

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Status: offline 		home health for PT in south FL: 65 per visit for eval,dc, a bit less for treatment...
facility anywhere from 30-50 an hour

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RE: On average, how much PRN work have you done in the ... - August 10, 2007 9:01:35 AM   
TLB

 

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Status: offline 		I'm seeing 65 for home health and 45-55 for outpatient.

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