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Re: Deep dull ache - September 23, 2005 9:17:00 AM
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Synergy
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I see something in his medial malleolus (first film) that appears to be a non-displaced fracture, but cannot see it in the 2nd film. Given his history of diabetes and poor wound closure, osteomyelitis comes to mind as well. Interesting case! :)
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Re: Deep dull ache - September 23, 2005 11:42:00 AM
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Im going with Chris on the osteomyelitis. Hes smart.
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Re: Deep dull ache - September 23, 2005 2:11:00 PM
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Hey Chris, I think what you are seeing is the overlying fibula. The osseous structure look ok to me, except a small ovid lucency at the medial malleolus (not concerning) however there is a soft tissue abnormality anterior to the tibia. Infection.
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Re: Deep dull ache - September 23, 2005 2:56:00 PM
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Osteomyelitis sounds about right. Ws there any fever involved a well? Periosteal reactions and soft tissue component (cloudiness of radiograph) as well.
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Re: Deep dull ache - September 23, 2005 4:14:00 PM
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UTDC,
Thanks for correcting my apparent oversight. After looking at it again, I agree with you. I still think the OM may be an issue. Judging by these films, if it is OM then it's quite early because there are no visible (at least to me) periosteal reactions, but these may be better seen via CT or bone scan.
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Re: Deep dull ache - September 25, 2005 12:59:00 PM
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I see no evidence of osteomyelitis. The only abnormality I see is in the soft tissues. It is probably necrotizing fasciitis...just kidding. In any case, I'm sure Dr. Wagner could give us some valuble input on this one.
Jeff
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Re: Deep dull ache - September 26, 2005 1:44:00 AM
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I see a soft tissue lesion that seems to move when I scroll down....oh, wait. That's a fingerprint on my screen...
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Re: Deep dull ache - September 26, 2005 1:22:00 PM
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Interesting angulation of the proximal fibula. I am not sure if this is real or just the artifact from my lineless trifocals.
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Re: Deep dull ache - September 26, 2005 10:57:00 PM
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Leg looks swollen! Can it be some kind of vascular problem or infection of some sort...it could be osteomyelitis but the bone looks normal.
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Re: Deep dull ache - September 27, 2005 1:23:00 AM
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Sebastian Asselbergs
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Any signs of compartment syndrome? And that IS an interesting little curve in that fibula, but it looks old.
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Re: Deep dull ache - September 29, 2005 6:21:00 PM
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I think evolving osteomyelitis and compartment syndrome are very reasonable, taking into account the limited history and films that are presented here. The fibula is completely normal in these projections.
As an aside, as you know the 5 'P's' of Volkmann's ischemia might also apply on clinical exam: -pulselessness -pain (earliest sign of compartment syndrome) -paresthesia -pallor -paralysis
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Re: Deep dull ache - September 30, 2005 5:51:00 AM
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I don't see any signs of OM in this radiograph. Sure the patients history and presentation would lead my thoughts in that direction but there still appears to be pathology in the distal tibia. I don't think it is in the medial malleolus however but it does present (and appear) to resemble a Tillaux Fracture. Even though this is primarily an adolescent condition, I don't think it would be an unreasonable occurrence given this patients age and history.
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Re: Deep dull ache - September 30, 2005 6:20:00 AM
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Differentially I may also consider fracture of the Posterior malleolus (a.k.a. posterior articular margin) which may be more likely going by the size of the fx. and patients age.
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