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DOCTORATE IN PHYSICAL THERAPY - May 17, 2004 9:18:00 AM   
ratha78

 

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I finished my master degree(pediatric neurology) in india.i like to do Doctorate in physical therapy .Please give me idea,advice &procedure for this.
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Re: DOCTORATE IN PHYSICAL THERAPY - May 18, 2004 2:06:00 AM   
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I assume that your BS is in physical therapy.

Do you mean a research doctorate (PhD/EdD) or an advanced/terminal clinical doctorate in physical therapy (DScPT)?

Note that a DPT is NOT a terminal clinical doctorate, it is (even the transitional DPT) designed to patch the holes in the education of a BSPT or MPT since they graduated. If your PT degree is within the past 3 to 5 years, the DPT is unnecessary for you.

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Re: DOCTORATE IN PHYSICAL THERAPY - May 22, 2004 9:40:00 AM   
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I finished my master in physiotherapy in india in 2000.i like to do Phd in UK/AUS/US.Kindly suggest me.
Thanks

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Re: DOCTORATE IN PHYSICAL THERAPY - May 22, 2004 12:12:00 PM   
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My first question is why are you not considering Canada? You can get a world class education for much less than other countries.

I have been told that a PhD is 3 years in AUS. I have also heard that a PhD from there is not highly looked upon in other countries. This may be different in PT since they do some great research there.

My second question is how good is your English? It is very important that you either know english very well or can pick it up very quickly. You have to be able to read and understand technical papers written in English. You have to be able to communicate to others that you understand these papers and have to be able to communicate your own work. There would be nothing worse than spending a lot of money to travel to another country for a couple of years and have nothing to show for it because you failed your comprehensive exams.

My advice:

Find funding first if possible. It is a lot easier to find a position if you bring your own funding. Check to see if India has funding to send students abroad, and check the country and school you are planning on going to.

The difficult problem is deciding who you want to work with. If you already know what you are interested in, read a lot of papers in that area and find people who are doing work you are interested in and contact them. It is not necessary to restrict yourself to a physiotherapy PhD program. I don't believe that Drew's PhD is in physiotherapy and neither mcap's nor my programs are in physiotherapy.

Good Luck,
Doug

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Re: DOCTORATE IN PHYSICAL THERAPY - May 22, 2004 6:19:00 PM   
Andrew M. Ball PT PhD

 

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Doug's advice is good. Figure out what you want to be, what you want to research, what kind of research you want to do, and then find out where the best in the world happens to be --- work with them.

For me, disabilities research from a social science, qualitative perspective --- there is no one better than Mary Keener Beresford, PhD. Formerly of Century University and University of New Mexico and now of University of New Mexico only. After much soul searching about application to work with other leaders in the fields of neurodevelopment and economics --- I decided on qualitative research with Dr. Beresford because of her presentation style, publication record, and quite frankly, the fact that she herself is disabled. We tailored my research questions to my interests --- namely joining behaviors of health professionals working with the disabled (e.g. What reasons do non APTA members give for not belonging to the APTA? --- surprisingly, although usually the initial answer, it WASN'T the "high cost of dues"), and what impact those issues had upon the quality of care received by individuals with disablilities, and I ended up with a PhD in Healthcare Management.

All PhD's, by the way, are first and foremost, research doctorates. They ALL focus upon how to conduct research, the varience is in the focus of that research and the modes of collecting, processing, analyzing and interpeting the data. Strictly speaking, other than the Drexel program, there are no PhD's in "physical therapy" per se. Unless something's changed since last I looked, most PT professors have PhD's in things like anatomy, neuroanatomy, biomechanics, exercise phys, and (more often than not) education.

The experience was invaluable and rewarding, but I'd honestly never do it again. I think that many PhD's would say the same, which may be why only about 30% of people who start their doctorate actually finish.

Be sure it's what you want to do, and FULLY research the program and your potential advisor before doing one.

Drew

_____________________________

Dr. Andrew M. Ball, PT, DPT, Ph.D.

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Re: DOCTORATE IN PHYSICAL THERAPY - September 23, 2004 2:58:00 AM   
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Reading through the advices given by Andrew and Dough. Probably you gentlemen could help me as well. I am Bs.physiotherapist involved in humanitarian service for the last 4 years. Presently my work is focussed on paediatric rehabilitation in africa and have been working in paediatrics for 4 years as well. I would like to enpower myself with more skills and info in this speciality. I have been looking at universities for a Maters programme in the UK and any further suggestions or advices will be greatly appreciated?

Kindly excuse me for posting at the Doctorates column.

Thanks in advance

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Re: DOCTORATE IN PHYSICAL THERAPY - May 18, 2004 2:06:00 AM   
Andrew M. Ball PT PhD

 

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I assume that your BS is in physical therapy.

Do you mean a research doctorate (PhD/EdD) or an advanced/terminal clinical doctorate in physical therapy (DScPT)?

Note that a DPT is NOT a terminal clinical doctorate, it is (even the transitional DPT) designed to patch the holes in the education of a BSPT or MPT since they graduated. If your PT degree is within the past 3 to 5 years, the DPT is unnecessary for you.

_____________________________

Dr. Andrew M. Ball, PT, DPT, Ph.D.

(in reply to ratha78)
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Re: DOCTORATE IN PHYSICAL THERAPY - May 22, 2004 9:40:00 AM   
ratha78

 

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I finished my master in physiotherapy in india in 2000.i like to do Phd in UK/AUS/US.Kindly suggest me.
Thanks

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Re: DOCTORATE IN PHYSICAL THERAPY - May 22, 2004 12:12:00 PM   
Bournephysio

 

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My first question is why are you not considering Canada? You can get a world class education for much less than other countries.

I have been told that a PhD is 3 years in AUS. I have also heard that a PhD from there is not highly looked upon in other countries. This may be different in PT since they do some great research there.

My second question is how good is your English? It is very important that you either know english very well or can pick it up very quickly. You have to be able to read and understand technical papers written in English. You have to be able to communicate to others that you understand these papers and have to be able to communicate your own work. There would be nothing worse than spending a lot of money to travel to another country for a couple of years and have nothing to show for it because you failed your comprehensive exams.

My advice:

Find funding first if possible. It is a lot easier to find a position if you bring your own funding. Check to see if India has funding to send students abroad, and check the country and school you are planning on going to.

The difficult problem is deciding who you want to work with. If you already know what you are interested in, read a lot of papers in that area and find people who are doing work you are interested in and contact them. It is not necessary to restrict yourself to a physiotherapy PhD program. I don't believe that Drew's PhD is in physiotherapy and neither mcap's nor my programs are in physiotherapy.

Good Luck,
Doug

(in reply to ratha78)
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Re: DOCTORATE IN PHYSICAL THERAPY - May 22, 2004 6:19:00 PM   
Andrew M. Ball PT PhD

 

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Doug's advice is good. Figure out what you want to be, what you want to research, what kind of research you want to do, and then find out where the best in the world happens to be --- work with them.

For me, disabilities research from a social science, qualitative perspective --- there is no one better than Mary Keener Beresford, PhD. Formerly of Century University and University of New Mexico and now of University of New Mexico only. After much soul searching about application to work with other leaders in the fields of neurodevelopment and economics --- I decided on qualitative research with Dr. Beresford because of her presentation style, publication record, and quite frankly, the fact that she herself is disabled. We tailored my research questions to my interests --- namely joining behaviors of health professionals working with the disabled (e.g. What reasons do non APTA members give for not belonging to the APTA? --- surprisingly, although usually the initial answer, it WASN'T the "high cost of dues"), and what impact those issues had upon the quality of care received by individuals with disablilities, and I ended up with a PhD in Healthcare Management.

All PhD's, by the way, are first and foremost, research doctorates. They ALL focus upon how to conduct research, the varience is in the focus of that research and the modes of collecting, processing, analyzing and interpeting the data. Strictly speaking, other than the Drexel program, there are no PhD's in "physical therapy" per se. Unless something's changed since last I looked, most PT professors have PhD's in things like anatomy, neuroanatomy, biomechanics, exercise phys, and (more often than not) education.

The experience was invaluable and rewarding, but I'd honestly never do it again. I think that many PhD's would say the same, which may be why only about 30% of people who start their doctorate actually finish.

Be sure it's what you want to do, and FULLY research the program and your potential advisor before doing one.

Drew

_____________________________

Dr. Andrew M. Ball, PT, DPT, Ph.D.

(in reply to ratha78)
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Re: DOCTORATE IN PHYSICAL THERAPY - September 23, 2004 2:58:00 AM   
premedward

 

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Reading through the advices given by Andrew and Dough. Probably you gentlemen could help me as well. I am Bs.physiotherapist involved in humanitarian service for the last 4 years. Presently my work is focussed on paediatric rehabilitation in africa and have been working in paediatrics for 4 years as well. I would like to enpower myself with more skills and info in this speciality. I have been looking at universities for a Maters programme in the UK and any further suggestions or advices will be greatly appreciated?

Kindly excuse me for posting at the Doctorates column.

Thanks in advance

(in reply to ratha78)
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